Murat Oktay Danış • ...on t h e ,other HAND, A b s t r a c t i o n, -as a work- , has an ability, - that , makes me recall, or is, to call- ,for " A b s o l u t e as and an empty VACUM ", is " a T H i N G ", that has to be MADE; by artist while DOing-art.. .... ( and when I exemine, the history of art for " abstract expressionism; or art Abstractions " ; I feel that, A b s t r a c t e r s; can " call " -or find- that Absolute Volume; in their work ..) ( it seems to me, that, -especially Kandinsky- they seek, to find out and show where, that "absolute volume " in the air - where things stand i n - is located.. ..and artists and people who seek that VACUM; c a n, freely, e x p r e s s; themsleves; i f t h e y ; can obtain; that; m u l t i -figure personalities, in their; " ONE-B O D i E S "..(multi things as Bodies of a human, to flow in a r t medium -paint- ) ..
S O, 1- " opening spaces as, U are a b s t r a c t i n g " , and 2- flowing " multi-figureed-THiNG body " ; -poured into, the Paint- ; ,are two synchronised-process abilities; that have to go,-proceed- together. b y the artist when doing and making art.. b o t h, feed each other; that i s, .. a b s o l u t e (and abstraction) opens enough place and space to, all that " multi-figure-bodies-occuring and happening " in the paint; ; s o; both, your multi-body, and a r t things, c a n -and has to be- b e; clean, and won't be m i x e d -dirty- , by -not enough-space,(if you can not make-ready that absoulute space in arting..bodies may be mixed in art medium; although they have been installed into brain; separate l y..by your original body ies multi-THiNG-making ,works..) and s o , both can become organic. (like organic food ) ..while in art making, too..
S O, 1- " opening spaces as, U are a b s t r a c t i n g " , and 2- flowing " multi-figureed-THiNG body " ; -poured into, the Paint- ; ,are two synchronised-process abilities; that have to go,-proceed- together. b y the artist when doing and making art.. b o t h, feed each other; that i s, .. a b s o l u t e (and abstraction) opens enough place and space to, all that " multi-figure-bodies-occuring and happening " in the paint; ; s o; both, your multi-body, and a r t things, c a n -and has to be- b e; clean, and won't be m i x e d -dirty- , by -not enough-space,(if you can not make-ready that absoulute space in arting..bodies may be mixed in art medium; although they have been installed into brain; separate l y..by your original body ies multi-THiNG-making ,works..) and s o , both can become organic. (like organic food ) ..while in art making, too..
Murat Oktay Danış • as I continue to the writing above..
...i n the s p a c e of, , art i n g.. ( it is a bit like -or similar- to s e x, but, all has to be created, and MADE; b y the artist ; himself or herself.. S O; I think, if it shall b e; different -reverse- way of doing a r t.. i f U are a man; o r a Woman, t o o..
What I mean is, i n " organically -based art T H E O R y, " ; art' s aesthetics has to differ; " a little " if it is done by male or feMALE; t o o..
D O; not ,tell m e; art itself h a s; that, this multi-sex ; states as there is aesthetics located, in it..b u t, we have to define that situation before; ( w e males and females as we are human) a r t shall take control of , every thing.. ... (just like Religions and states has experimented that ,before in our , l i v e s..)
...i n the s p a c e of, , art i n g.. ( it is a bit like -or similar- to s e x, but, all has to be created, and MADE; b y the artist ; himself or herself.. S O; I think, if it shall b e; different -reverse- way of doing a r t.. i f U are a man; o r a Woman, t o o..
What I mean is, i n " organically -based art T H E O R y, " ; art' s aesthetics has to differ; " a little " if it is done by male or feMALE; t o o..
D O; not ,tell m e; art itself h a s; that, this multi-sex ; states as there is aesthetics located, in it..b u t, we have to define that situation before; ( w e males and females as we are human) a r t shall take control of , every thing.. ... (just like Religions and states has experimented that ,before in our , l i v e s..)
Murat Oktay Danış • " The real issue is not about how many, but how good. Art is about quality, not numbers. And the proof is, in the work. "
..I agree..but " to make THiNGs; good " , w e have to make; them; , f i r s t " separately " (that means, write, dance, paint, , make sound of it..as every decipline needs " a BODy " to do , these..) s e c o n d, b e f o r e a r t... ... before art; we have to be, prepered; t h a t " multi-figure- body " person ; -the Artist-THiNG- .. as it has to b e L i k e,, " a .." r e a d y-MADE " T H i N G "..itself..
...installation, happening, Ready-Made, perFORMance;............ these are all art-movements; ,- in art history of the architects and the historians- b u t, I am trying to put them; a l l ; i n t o ; ONE-HUMAN BODy, , t o be able to M O V E -the human-body-; ,in art's M E D i U M..
SO, today we can be that multi-figure-person; by doing our separate-d e e d s; ;m o r e than the " Chief in the stone age "..I think..
..I agree..but " to make THiNGs; good " , w e have to make; them; , f i r s t " separately " (that means, write, dance, paint, , make sound of it..as every decipline needs " a BODy " to do , these..) s e c o n d, b e f o r e a r t... ... before art; we have to be, prepered; t h a t " multi-figure- body " person ; -the Artist-THiNG- .. as it has to b e L i k e,, " a .." r e a d y-MADE " T H i N G "..itself..
...installation, happening, Ready-Made, perFORMance;............ these are all art-movements; ,- in art history of the architects and the historians- b u t, I am trying to put them; a l l ; i n t o ; ONE-HUMAN BODy, , t o be able to M O V E -the human-body-; ,in art's M E D i U M..
SO, today we can be that multi-figure-person; by doing our separate-d e e d s; ;m o r e than the " Chief in the stone age "..I think..
Murat Oktay Danış • ..they would say, " be faithfull to some t h i n g .. " ..(belive in something; -belive in the " RELiGiON-T H i N G "..- and that might b e, " the " GOD " " if U need, a big-THiNG, that will enhance your " b e living." .. ( but some others , would provide that 4 U..)
.. ( someone will say and, " I will be l i v e ; i n ",, some things, ..(just like they will be saying, U will b e" living " afterwards, , - if we serve, U SO-..) .... a s I will find some t i m e,I will try, " to belive i n " .to only ONE-BiG " " G O D OBJECT " if I can -or have enough breth 4 that- , , b u t, " beliving" " as a second j o b "..because I was hired by some, JOB owners..al r e a d y.. )
. ." to b e , l i v e , i n " " SOME T H i N G s " is the primary Job, for an ARTisst..if u do not " b e live i n " ; THiNGs, t h e n, why should THiNGs; , b e talking t o U,
(and tell U where they live in the land and matter i n REALMs, far a way from planet EARTH..) in the, art medium s p a c e s given to them.. .. and if " things "; DO NOT Talk to U; then U need cold-architect-mind, methods; t o comprehand, T H i n g s, i n the a r t spaces, a l s o. -DO, they, want to talk to U , o r they do not want to talk to, human.- Architects DO not ask; THiNGs, i f they want to talk -from the heart- .. b u t art has to begin w i t h ; ; giving U' r ,h e art, , i n t o THiNGs..
..i f U can give, U' r heART; t o " these " things, then , these things will b e installed i n U; , SO U can , e X p r e s s them; o u t, F R E E L y.. (but instead we only love human-friends, w e never invest i n, THiNGS; only as they stand-still around us, all the time..that means artist does not have friens..but loves things..)
...and finally, i f U; G i v e U' r heart, to the ART DECiPLiNE s (as they are," THiNGs " , too, writing, Dancing, painting, Playing Piano, e.c.t.) all these BODies;(Bodies because U make them , -with whole of U' r, body- ..one by one, but..all " at ONCE " )
..and that will put -any of these deciplines- in U' r bra i n; as bodies made of DEEDs, - as " human-body Object s " ; , READY to be used i n ; " Human Body, related; -or based- ART.. " ...
( o t h e r w i s e, you need to give a TEXt; to people, for them to put their whole Body, into that TEXT; so ART; work for " art-work-contemporarian; " can touch, H U M A N b o d y..i e s..from outside, by the way of, " rational-living- world ".. )
p.s.
i f U; have studied, all " isms " defined in ART-History; , , t h e n,after , - U being a " multi-body-READYmade-person " too,- U can USE them, all i n an art perFormance, -for example in painting- all at O N C E. ...as a free improvisation..all actions there, -occures- , will b e; somehow, " defined " as they will b e coming from the" body-thing-deeds " ,from the M i n d.. o f a h u m a n..(as they were READY-MADE; BODies, and worked; before) .. ( so being " definable ", i s the " science layer " , o f the ART.. - because science is a " defination " affort, i n the basic- e n d.- )
..basic e n d- ..My; " V a g i n a "; Mr.D i C K.
..that (scientific definable), (Things related) , will MAKE; m y art; " V a g i n a t i v e " ; i n the B a s i C. ( and ABSOLUTE as abstracted; will b e the PEN i s, in art M a k i n g..)
.. ( someone will say and, " I will be l i v e ; i n ",, some things, ..(just like they will be saying, U will b e" living " afterwards, , - if we serve, U SO-..) .... a s I will find some t i m e,I will try, " to belive i n " .to only ONE-BiG " " G O D OBJECT " if I can -or have enough breth 4 that- , , b u t, " beliving" " as a second j o b "..because I was hired by some, JOB owners..al r e a d y.. )
. ." to b e , l i v e , i n " " SOME T H i N G s " is the primary Job, for an ARTisst..if u do not " b e live i n " ; THiNGs, t h e n, why should THiNGs; , b e talking t o U,
(and tell U where they live in the land and matter i n REALMs, far a way from planet EARTH..) in the, art medium s p a c e s given to them.. .. and if " things "; DO NOT Talk to U; then U need cold-architect-mind, methods; t o comprehand, T H i n g s, i n the a r t spaces, a l s o. -DO, they, want to talk to U , o r they do not want to talk to, human.- Architects DO not ask; THiNGs, i f they want to talk -from the heart- .. b u t art has to begin w i t h ; ; giving U' r ,h e art, , i n t o THiNGs..
..i f U can give, U' r heART; t o " these " things, then , these things will b e installed i n U; , SO U can , e X p r e s s them; o u t, F R E E L y.. (but instead we only love human-friends, w e never invest i n, THiNGS; only as they stand-still around us, all the time..that means artist does not have friens..but loves things..)
...and finally, i f U; G i v e U' r heart, to the ART DECiPLiNE s (as they are," THiNGs " , too, writing, Dancing, painting, Playing Piano, e.c.t.) all these BODies;(Bodies because U make them , -with whole of U' r, body- ..one by one, but..all " at ONCE " )
..and that will put -any of these deciplines- in U' r bra i n; as bodies made of DEEDs, - as " human-body Object s " ; , READY to be used i n ; " Human Body, related; -or based- ART.. " ...
( o t h e r w i s e, you need to give a TEXt; to people, for them to put their whole Body, into that TEXT; so ART; work for " art-work-contemporarian; " can touch, H U M A N b o d y..i e s..from outside, by the way of, " rational-living- world ".. )
p.s.
i f U; have studied, all " isms " defined in ART-History; , , t h e n,after , - U being a " multi-body-READYmade-person " too,- U can USE them, all i n an art perFormance, -for example in painting- all at O N C E. ...as a free improvisation..all actions there, -occures- , will b e; somehow, " defined " as they will b e coming from the" body-thing-deeds " ,from the M i n d.. o f a h u m a n..(as they were READY-MADE; BODies, and worked; before) .. ( so being " definable ", i s the " science layer " , o f the ART.. - because science is a " defination " affort, i n the basic- e n d.- )
..basic e n d- ..My; " V a g i n a "; Mr.D i C K.
..that (scientific definable), (Things related) , will MAKE; m y art; " V a g i n a t i v e " ; i n the B a s i C. ( and ABSOLUTE as abstracted; will b e the PEN i s, in art M a k i n g..)
Murat Oktay Danış • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892tXZXIqCU
." .I've nothing much to offer There's nothing much to take I'm an absolute beginner When I'm absolutely sane
As long as we're together The rest can go to hell I absolutely love you But we're absolute beginners
With eyes completely open But nervous all the same
If our love song Could fly over mountains Could laugh at the ocean Just like the films
There's no reason To feel all the hard times To lay down the hard lines It's absolutely true
Nothing much could happen Nothing we can't shake Oh, we're absolute beginners With nothing much at stake
As long as you're still smiling There's nothing more I need I absolutely love you But we're absolute beginners
But if my love is your love We're certain to succeed
If our love song Could fly over mountains Could sail over heartaches Just like the films
If it's reason To feel all the hard times To lay down the hard lines It's absolutely true. "
..written as a s o n g , by ,DAViD BOWiE..
..this is a song by D a v i d Bowie." .h e is my academic ", person, with his " one- e y e; " ACADEMiC.. .. b u t the other one; i s a wagine ( gin gine) flying in the oceans..of surreal realms..
S O; D O; ı need, that, J.POLLOCK; Academicians, a s I will e x p e r i m e n t; the SAME W A Y; as h e; D i D..
i f U w e r e to, b e; NEW; or NEO " POLLOCK, should U read others what they wrote O N H i m..
...instead, I will catch Dawid-B o W i e 's " DOLPHiN' s T A L E (tail) "..(in Heros) ..to swim in the sound too, rather than being in t he paint; of POLLOCK's, 4,; I will s w i m - myself - ; i n; , L a t e r..
." .I've nothing much to offer There's nothing much to take I'm an absolute beginner When I'm absolutely sane
As long as we're together The rest can go to hell I absolutely love you But we're absolute beginners
With eyes completely open But nervous all the same
If our love song Could fly over mountains Could laugh at the ocean Just like the films
There's no reason To feel all the hard times To lay down the hard lines It's absolutely true
Nothing much could happen Nothing we can't shake Oh, we're absolute beginners With nothing much at stake
As long as you're still smiling There's nothing more I need I absolutely love you But we're absolute beginners
But if my love is your love We're certain to succeed
If our love song Could fly over mountains Could sail over heartaches Just like the films
If it's reason To feel all the hard times To lay down the hard lines It's absolutely true. "
..written as a s o n g , by ,DAViD BOWiE..
..this is a song by D a v i d Bowie." .h e is my academic ", person, with his " one- e y e; " ACADEMiC.. .. b u t the other one; i s a wagine ( gin gine) flying in the oceans..of surreal realms..
S O; D O; ı need, that, J.POLLOCK; Academicians, a s I will e x p e r i m e n t; the SAME W A Y; as h e; D i D..
i f U w e r e to, b e; NEW; or NEO " POLLOCK, should U read others what they wrote O N H i m..
...instead, I will catch Dawid-B o W i e 's " DOLPHiN' s T A L E (tail) "..(in Heros) ..to swim in the sound too, rather than being in t he paint; of POLLOCK's, 4,; I will s w i m - myself - ; i n; , L a t e r..
Murat Oktay Danış • http://www.andrewgrahamdixon.com/archive/readArticle/188
..can anyone DO; that, as a BODy o f a ;H U M A N.... Ywes Klein, d i d that.. C a n man fly into the street a i r..Pollock was an abstracter, he supposed Absolute V o l u m e; in his Atoms ; m i g h t have m a k e this DANCE; 4 h i m..(instead of flying his THiNG-Body, -ready-made,by God-FiGURE OBJECT-; in the air;................
Pollock, have " deplaced " ; the " absolute Volume o f his BODy Atoms, ( -his body might-should h a v e that absolute volume, he supposed..)- ..........o v e r and in his , .B R A i n.. " ..(an " absolute volume-shake " ; flying in the air, as it is flaying in t h e studio; Space.. being a black THiNG..)
...b y the; WAY; I have written, this rewiew; o n; POLLOCK s; drippings.. and his " ATOM TOTEM " ..(if U migh;l i k e to,W O R K , O N..additionally..what I W R O T E..too..)
http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012/09/murat-danis-this-is-abstract.html
.. http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html
http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012/09/murat-danis-2.html
..can anyone DO; that, as a BODy o f a ;H U M A N.... Ywes Klein, d i d that.. C a n man fly into the street a i r..Pollock was an abstracter, he supposed Absolute V o l u m e; in his Atoms ; m i g h t have m a k e this DANCE; 4 h i m..(instead of flying his THiNG-Body, -ready-made,by God-FiGURE OBJECT-; in the air;................
Pollock, have " deplaced " ; the " absolute Volume o f his BODy Atoms, ( -his body might-should h a v e that absolute volume, he supposed..)- ..........o v e r and in his , .B R A i n.. " ..(an " absolute volume-shake " ; flying in the air, as it is flaying in t h e studio; Space.. being a black THiNG..)
...b y the; WAY; I have written, this rewiew; o n; POLLOCK s; drippings.. and his " ATOM TOTEM " ..(if U migh;l i k e to,W O R K , O N..additionally..what I W R O T E..too..)
http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012/09/murat-danis-this-is-abstract.html
.. http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html
http://muratdanis.blogspot.com/2012/09/murat-danis-2.html
Murat Oktay Danış • Michael, Pollock did not " pour " the paint....Y e s, he dripped the paint; into the air; so these lines of paint in the a i r, were 3 dimensional.. (SO was Pollock himself.., and his actions in the air, too..so this was Pollock acting with his BODY;.. and flying paint lines in the a i r were, fallowing his Body..) but still he was D r i p p i n g,-one-line of paint- each time he put his stick in the paint can.. ,that means he did not dripped; 10 lines at the same t i m e; ; ..can any body, b e in 10 dropping lines of paint, at the same time..if Ucan get into, that 10 lines;............(U can not get into one line which comes with the move of the body..but if there are 10 lines, then U' r creative thinking might r i d e; any of them in any t i m e..many times..) ........... t h e n ; I can say; U WiLL b e; i n t h e; L i n e; and U can take Control of the L i N E ; and, t h e n ; install i n; U' r , creative mind..
There is an other thing..L i n e s -dripped- are coming from, Pollock' s Body; and going on to canvas ,-on the floor..- (SO still, J.Pollock is the main object in the center. -the reason to the happening- ...if U pour the p a i n t, on the tuval -that is on the floor- then if U take a spatul and stuck into that paint lying there, then U can raise the paint from the floor..o f course it will begin to, , drip dawn i n many lines..(this time, Paint comes to U..and then when dripped down; i t has been going from; U..) ................S a y, the " REALMs were, i n the PAiNT " ; and then realms were coming to U; then they turned; and; they went on the tuval surface again..THAT WiLL CHANGE; a T H i N G.. ...............I can say; when I was Lifting the paint; -from the surface- , I " must have installed my mind " i n to, that paint; - that was on -or in- that sapatula-..SO realms in M E; -my mind- and REALMs; READY; or ALREADY; i n the P a i n t; will b e added to a combine.. (realms are lying in our souls in fact.. ...and I can forget that ,my brain has been converted to , the paint , in the can..)
F i n a l l y, , Pollock was against, describing the consciousness , ,and that drawing figures with the hand..so dripped lines were free and hasn ' t been drawn to some figures..b u t, they still a r e; curved- L i N E S.. and he was try difficulty, for them not to e v o l v e, to the f i g u r e s.. ..(SO that took him to ATOMiSATiON; (these lines were orbital movements to these electrons that F o r m, the ATOM s.. -and would be described as, " noting m o r e "- ..)
W h a t, I say, is, Pollock was stuck i n these lines, and color came into these lines; and they accumulated, on and on, and they should come to that " PAiNTiNG o f MASS "..nothing m o r e..
W e shouldn' t be ; afraid; ,i f these flying lines; (if we know Pollock,then these lines are coming from the ATOMs..) .. e v o l v e to; h u m a n; SHAPEs; a s they will trawel to, t h e F i g u r e s of Human..
......a n d, W e; shouldn't b e afraid, to p u t; REALMs; oON to the Tuval; - being carried; on that , the Floor-..( w e used to think that, REALMs were in our BRAins; and only in our M i n d s, and only in our dreams..)..L e t the realm in U; be in the Paint, and, and as paint begins to f l o w (enhance) in a sphare; ; REALMs should begin to e n h a n c e; i n the PAiNT..
..this t i m e; w h e n; realms are enhancing i n the paint; U can; show them the W A Y; w i t h; U' r SPATULA.. as Uhad a rideON a natural; f i s h; and coming to earth near the "realm, c r e a t u r e s". ..( U' will b e converted to them; and they should gain " s h a p e s of the FiGUREs ", fromTHE E a r t h ..
S O,"shape of FiGUREs " are " scientifically defined, F i g u r e s " ..both "figures of earth" and " entities of realms " ,can, b e in these SHAPES.
(THAT MEANs; abstraction of art; can come to an ; E q u i l i b r ium; withTHEshapes of science..
There is an other thing..L i n e s -dripped- are coming from, Pollock' s Body; and going on to canvas ,-on the floor..- (SO still, J.Pollock is the main object in the center. -the reason to the happening- ...if U pour the p a i n t, on the tuval -that is on the floor- then if U take a spatul and stuck into that paint lying there, then U can raise the paint from the floor..o f course it will begin to, , drip dawn i n many lines..(this time, Paint comes to U..and then when dripped down; i t has been going from; U..) ................S a y, the " REALMs were, i n the PAiNT " ; and then realms were coming to U; then they turned; and; they went on the tuval surface again..THAT WiLL CHANGE; a T H i N G.. ...............I can say; when I was Lifting the paint; -from the surface- , I " must have installed my mind " i n to, that paint; - that was on -or in- that sapatula-..SO realms in M E; -my mind- and REALMs; READY; or ALREADY; i n the P a i n t; will b e added to a combine.. (realms are lying in our souls in fact.. ...and I can forget that ,my brain has been converted to , the paint , in the can..)
F i n a l l y, , Pollock was against, describing the consciousness , ,and that drawing figures with the hand..so dripped lines were free and hasn ' t been drawn to some figures..b u t, they still a r e; curved- L i N E S.. and he was try difficulty, for them not to e v o l v e, to the f i g u r e s.. ..(SO that took him to ATOMiSATiON; (these lines were orbital movements to these electrons that F o r m, the ATOM s.. -and would be described as, " noting m o r e "- ..)
W h a t, I say, is, Pollock was stuck i n these lines, and color came into these lines; and they accumulated, on and on, and they should come to that " PAiNTiNG o f MASS "..nothing m o r e..
W e shouldn' t be ; afraid; ,i f these flying lines; (if we know Pollock,then these lines are coming from the ATOMs..) .. e v o l v e to; h u m a n; SHAPEs; a s they will trawel to, t h e F i g u r e s of Human..
......a n d, W e; shouldn't b e afraid, to p u t; REALMs; oON to the Tuval; - being carried; on that , the Floor-..( w e used to think that, REALMs were in our BRAins; and only in our M i n d s, and only in our dreams..)..L e t the realm in U; be in the Paint, and, and as paint begins to f l o w (enhance) in a sphare; ; REALMs should begin to e n h a n c e; i n the PAiNT..
..this t i m e; w h e n; realms are enhancing i n the paint; U can; show them the W A Y; w i t h; U' r SPATULA.. as Uhad a rideON a natural; f i s h; and coming to earth near the "realm, c r e a t u r e s". ..( U' will b e converted to them; and they should gain " s h a p e s of the FiGUREs ", fromTHE E a r t h ..
S O,"shape of FiGUREs " are " scientifically defined, F i g u r e s " ..both "figures of earth" and " entities of realms " ,can, b e in these SHAPES.
(THAT MEANs; abstraction of art; can come to an ; E q u i l i b r ium; withTHEshapes of science..
Murat Oktay Danış • Chat, I wouldn' t go to David Bowies, concert.. (because It has been 30 years I begun to listen to him..and that means he is an ICON; MADE OF M E -in me-..-that is , I made my David Bowie, with my BODy and BRAin, ; and in ME..) .it is obvious, when watching him onYou Tube, ,he was in that, comercial ring..but, the " DavidBoWie " , i n M E; (MADE of ME) is not comercial, -made of my Labor and deeds- ..and I think that, david should BARROW; m i n e, sometimes..that means, I can b e, , his f r i e n d..
I think we are still, talking a r t..Yves K l e i n; was a Judo Sport maker..That MAKEs him special.. D o U know any other artist; that has peoceed to the a r e a of SPORT' s....(SPORT i s, very important..in our century it has taken the place of religion.. -if U are to belive in something, U can play a game and b e l i v e in; ; -and b e i n - U and other things..firstly the model thing ; " the BALL ")) ..
...SPORTs has gained a r e a from religions..and ART; can D O; the same..(if w e can ACT l i k e a sporter; i n the ART M e d i a..) (I am not against; RELiGiON; but, when sports and art carry some parts; it will b e more clean, Ithink) ..
S O; Yves K l e i n..h e threw himself out o f a second floor window, t o the air of the street.. T h a t, M e a n s, W e; have to, throw; our selves; OUR BODiES; i n to; art media.s.. ( of course h e was; throwing naked woman into the blue paint that was on the floor..b u t this w a s; a SYMBOLiC; M o v e..HE MEANT; c a n U'r whole body, b e, and a c t; in a, ; medium..o f art..) (all art history has to be used, spontaneously and simultaneously, a t a T i M E..in an art medium.. b y ; t h e, M E N ..)
I think we are still, talking a r t..Yves K l e i n; was a Judo Sport maker..That MAKEs him special.. D o U know any other artist; that has peoceed to the a r e a of SPORT' s....(SPORT i s, very important..in our century it has taken the place of religion.. -if U are to belive in something, U can play a game and b e l i v e in; ; -and b e i n - U and other things..firstly the model thing ; " the BALL ")) ..
...SPORTs has gained a r e a from religions..and ART; can D O; the same..(if w e can ACT l i k e a sporter; i n the ART M e d i a..) (I am not against; RELiGiON; but, when sports and art carry some parts; it will b e more clean, Ithink) ..
S O; Yves K l e i n..h e threw himself out o f a second floor window, t o the air of the street.. T h a t, M e a n s, W e; have to, throw; our selves; OUR BODiES; i n to; art media.s.. ( of course h e was; throwing naked woman into the blue paint that was on the floor..b u t this w a s; a SYMBOLiC; M o v e..HE MEANT; c a n U'r whole body, b e, and a c t; in a, ; medium..o f art..) (all art history has to be used, spontaneously and simultaneously, a t a T i M E..in an art medium.. b y ; t h e, M E N ..)
Murat Oktay Danış • ..of course, f o r g i v e me; every Body..when I get into something, i t means I shall put ,all my BODy; i n ..(that means, m y " W r i t i n g s, here " , contain my Whole, B O D y.. too.. -with my whole Bra i n- ) (so requires the same at least..) ...where ever I write, , all these " spesific " and valuable , c u t e, thinkings, run a w a y.. ( or disappear )..I think my BODY; has that " PLAGUE o u s "; infection..to those, " synthetic ideas "..which I also am curious o f.. -in art history field-.. E x c u s e , M E; please..
..that was a , " deconstruct i o n "; to my; FiGURE; b e in g. , h e r e.
..that was a , " deconstruct i o n "; to my; FiGURE; b e in g. , h e r e.
Murat Oktay Danış • I should, prefer to b e in the NORTH, (Like Norway, Sweden,Sibiria, North of England; or Toronto or Chicago..) .. at the first row, I guess..I like snow, and I like ice-blue then, the blue of the sea; maybe. Cold will try to conquer m e, , and there has to b e " fire " in me; twice -or Bodies more than 2 in m e- to stop that " absolute V o l u m e " that comes with the warning and will swallow m e....t h e n.. ... -of course the worse thing is; " the cold " ; where people a r e many.. these are hot places and people are in the people and that negative absolutness , I do afraid the most.. (Someone who wants to kill himself will kill U and still he might think he is killing himself..)
F i r s t; North, .. then W e s t, and Sauth, and , E a s t..I g u e s s... I am examing them i n my art y e t..
Murat Oktay Danış • ..when come to REAL..-or realism..- Iwould prefer Neouveau-Realism..(thet came with Yves Klein.Modern was against;-or contrary- Traditional Classical..Contemporary was against, modern and aesthetics.E v e r y " ism " rejected to do the present..and tried to DO, i t in another way..S O; Klein offered the THE B L U E- BODY; (but body, not the figure..) ..Nouveau-Realism; w a s against; A b s r a c t EXpressionism..Abstract art was against Figure. and Klain w a s; agains F i g u r e ;t o o.(but he was against, to abstract-art too..)
M y point of wiew; devides everything into 2. m a i n l y, Socialist and Capitalist VALUE s...Socialism is the civilisation of the earth (with the creatures of the earth; and human i n, too..and every thing and object on the EARTH-planet..); and Capitalism is the civilization o f " R E A L M s " ..( machines of Atomic WORLDs..Man is made of atoms and then cells..so atoms in us has to be define as WORLD-Bodies.. )..
...Absolute volume, and " REAL " ; a r e ; in that " REALM civilisation "...Absolute- E m t y n e s s; and the Things in that A.Volume are ; " r e a l -things ".. ...
.- REAL things are perfect machines (as they were, not created..); but they are entities that act in mechanical plains..and in some w a y, they are; " a L i v e "..(but not created, -4 earth-; .. and they are not 3 dimensional.. ..S O; t h e y will s u i t i n ; two dimensional; P A i N T i N G s.. -or ,picturings on a plane..)
Y v e s K l e i n, offered, t h e s e; " REAL THiNGs " happen; in the world; ; instead o f, F i g u r es.
(A BLUE -BODY (Alexandrea-VENUS) (a body that has been transfered to t h e ; " REAL ZONE -SOromanticalyBLUE- "..) SHOULD OFFER THEM; (these REAL;and REALMLy ALive -THiNGs to , o u r world.. a s they would stand i n, " plains of the Paintings (in the PAiNT) o n l y."
Contemporary, has an aim of; anti-aesthetic..(DO not aesthetisize, t h e REAL;) -as POP; L i v e s in the REAL-MATTER- WORLD; (POPART later)..-
F i g u r e; is aesthetical; but puts it; into a SYSTEM..( a siege..)
Modern rides on the L i g h t (color)-of the mater- ; that will free the figure with it's WAvE character.
EXpressionism; r i d e s on the nature o f the OBJECT.. ( while Object-changes..)
Abstract Expressionism, abstracts the expressioism-itself..
Constuctivism, of the Soviet' s; offer creative-Abstract- Expressionism..
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K l e i n must have thought..W h y; should I ilustrate or figurize; T H i N G s and creatures, of teh earth.. ..(Why should I waste my soul;and my eye; to see them )..I W i LL L E T; T H E M; (all these things and creatures of the world) s e e MY EARTHy-BODy; Reflections-from the R E A L Ms-...(where I transfer them all, to the REALTHing s o f the REALM s; with m y; o w n, RATiO..)
W h e n looking at the impressionist, paintings I can see " REAL-THings " .. i n them..
* are within the ARTiST; while painting outside in the sun-light- ;and they appear, i n the tuval..-to watch the light-made-objects- ...
(that means, if there a r e objects that appear as made of light, ( and made of strong and true white light,(full- prismatic colors in) )
..U DO NOT NEED , A b s t r a c t i n s of the Objects; (only abstractions of Figure with L i G H T; is enough to call; these ABSOLUTE TERRiTORy; REALMy-REAL-T H İ N G s, appear, i n the " t u v a l W i n d o w ".. (in the FORM o f Human face..and Body..)
.. (these are located in the soul of the artist; and ; they are not afraid to be seen i n ; s u c h strong L i G H T; o f the S U N..where NO-EViL; can shape that strong-, L i g h t; m a d e; N A T U R A L; things.. that means F i g u r e s; include that weak-light and shaped by the; SATAN..
.. a n d; i n theREAL; -Absolute Volume, REALMy; mechanic-Lands- ; where they appear in Painting-plains , w e can b e; SURE o f that there a r e ; N O; SATAN;-i n - t h e r e.)
M y point of wiew; devides everything into 2. m a i n l y, Socialist and Capitalist VALUE s...Socialism is the civilisation of the earth (with the creatures of the earth; and human i n, too..and every thing and object on the EARTH-planet..); and Capitalism is the civilization o f " R E A L M s " ..( machines of Atomic WORLDs..Man is made of atoms and then cells..so atoms in us has to be define as WORLD-Bodies.. )..
...Absolute volume, and " REAL " ; a r e ; in that " REALM civilisation "...Absolute- E m t y n e s s; and the Things in that A.Volume are ; " r e a l -things ".. ...
.- REAL things are perfect machines (as they were, not created..); but they are entities that act in mechanical plains..and in some w a y, they are; " a L i v e "..(but not created, -4 earth-; .. and they are not 3 dimensional.. ..S O; t h e y will s u i t i n ; two dimensional; P A i N T i N G s.. -or ,picturings on a plane..)
Y v e s K l e i n, offered, t h e s e; " REAL THiNGs " happen; in the world; ; instead o f, F i g u r es.
(A BLUE -BODY (Alexandrea-VENUS) (a body that has been transfered to t h e ; " REAL ZONE -SOromanticalyBLUE- "..) SHOULD OFFER THEM; (these REAL;and REALMLy ALive -THiNGs to , o u r world.. a s they would stand i n, " plains of the Paintings (in the PAiNT) o n l y."
Contemporary, has an aim of; anti-aesthetic..(DO not aesthetisize, t h e REAL;) -as POP; L i v e s in the REAL-MATTER- WORLD; (POPART later)..-
F i g u r e; is aesthetical; but puts it; into a SYSTEM..( a siege..)
Modern rides on the L i g h t (color)-of the mater- ; that will free the figure with it's WAvE character.
EXpressionism; r i d e s on the nature o f the OBJECT.. ( while Object-changes..)
Abstract Expressionism, abstracts the expressioism-itself..
Constuctivism, of the Soviet' s; offer creative-Abstract- Expressionism..
e.c.t.
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K l e i n must have thought..W h y; should I ilustrate or figurize; T H i N G s and creatures, of teh earth.. ..(Why should I waste my soul;and my eye; to see them )..I W i LL L E T; T H E M; (all these things and creatures of the world) s e e MY EARTHy-BODy; Reflections-from the R E A L Ms-...(where I transfer them all, to the REALTHing s o f the REALM s; with m y; o w n, RATiO..)
W h e n looking at the impressionist, paintings I can see " REAL-THings " .. i n them..
* are within the ARTiST; while painting outside in the sun-light- ;and they appear, i n the tuval..-to watch the light-made-objects- ...
(that means, if there a r e objects that appear as made of light, ( and made of strong and true white light,(full- prismatic colors in) )
..U DO NOT NEED , A b s t r a c t i n s of the Objects; (only abstractions of Figure with L i G H T; is enough to call; these ABSOLUTE TERRiTORy; REALMy-REAL-T H İ N G s, appear, i n the " t u v a l W i n d o w ".. (in the FORM o f Human face..and Body..)
.. (these are located in the soul of the artist; and ; they are not afraid to be seen i n ; s u c h strong L i G H T; o f the S U N..where NO-EViL; can shape that strong-, L i g h t; m a d e; N A T U R A L; things.. that means F i g u r e s; include that weak-light and shaped by the; SATAN..
.. a n d; i n theREAL; -Absolute Volume, REALMy; mechanic-Lands- ; where they appear in Painting-plains , w e can b e; SURE o f that there a r e ; N O; SATAN;-i n - t h e r e.)
Murat Oktay Danış • ..Amanda says; " some people abstract what they s e e " ; ..can we abstract human cells..or human body..as I can see, them (-in the eye of my self especially- ) .. too.. Y e s , high and e l i t e (mayb e Soviet) , constructivist- abstraction ,has to involve, the abstraction o f creation; itself.. ( I call it " iMPROViSATiON AT O N C E " ; -the created-cell-Body of the H u m a n - ,through to the -or against- ,Absolute Volume.
I work, i n two; STEPS.. F i r s t one is; to " improvise -MY CELLS&AtoMs, b o t h- , with the PAiNT "..using a Spatula, only..That is to express and abstract..cells and atoms and figures..
Second is to p u t " that;improvised paint- image " on the computer and MAKE; all U' r illustrations; all with the Machine; and the improvisations of U' r RATiO; to the REAL; i m a g e s..
..... b u t; never, Make these, two miXed. (Do not mix socialist and Capitalist; Value s. a s, , they both have to b e, c l e a n, and , ;PURE..))
S O; ARTist; has to H A V E; a socialist; , multi-H U M A N; B O D y.. T h e n the M i r o r; i m a g e to that strong-socialist-Body; t h e r e c o m e s; m u l t i- REAL; T H i N G s, i n the F O R M of human, to the " Published-POSTER s ; in the E art h."
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..b u t, art work still stays " s m a l l " -in size- , and intense; as c r e a t i o n, happens in..
I work, i n two; STEPS.. F i r s t one is; to " improvise -MY CELLS&AtoMs, b o t h- , with the PAiNT "..using a Spatula, only..That is to express and abstract..cells and atoms and figures..
Second is to p u t " that;improvised paint- image " on the computer and MAKE; all U' r illustrations; all with the Machine; and the improvisations of U' r RATiO; to the REAL; i m a g e s..
..... b u t; never, Make these, two miXed. (Do not mix socialist and Capitalist; Value s. a s, , they both have to b e, c l e a n, and , ;PURE..))
S O; ARTist; has to H A V E; a socialist; , multi-H U M A N; B O D y.. T h e n the M i r o r; i m a g e to that strong-socialist-Body; t h e r e c o m e s; m u l t i- REAL; T H i N G s, i n the F O R M of human, to the " Published-POSTER s ; in the E art h."
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..b u t, art work still stays " s m a l l " -in size- , and intense; as c r e a t i o n, happens in..
Murat Oktay Danış • * Y e s,Yosef.Kasamir Malevich and suprematism, and his well known " Black Square " , ..That Black square, is -what I am saying-.. " Absolute Volume "..M a l e v i c h has said; that; this w a s; " theZERO FORM " .. (F o r m but i n, the ZERO; V alued..) (and all that; RALM y-R E A L; t h i n g s ; must have been L y i n g i n, i t..-inthat black Volume, REALM ' s - M e d i u m..-..
................a n d; if ONE_Artsit can , install all his " flesh-&bone-worker-socialist- BODY "; i n t h e r e; thenH e can , DRESS; A L L these " REAL FiGURE-FORMs " on his BODY; t o come back -or to take them to the earthy creatures seen, - , to the Land of; " Con temporary ;ART- W O R L D ".
...and that dressening s can, -or has to b e - , H a p p e n, in a Computer -& PURE-RATiO- work..(Machine can illustrate, all these Entities of the REALM' s , to be dressed by a body-from earth; ;that has LEAKED; , i n the Computer..by using Abstract-Expressionism..) (RatioHAS toBEused , only, toCUT-paste-stretch-&turn actions..you may not add, any color, or a line, -that hand brings-, to that, original painting image, -from abstract-expressionist painting- put in t o, the computer...) (U can c u t, ifUlike with U'r-RATiO, -when U needTOdrawAl i n e, in the absolute MEDiUM.. - ..and paste, where everUwant2; -theseCUT-pieces.. -Just like the other suprematists offered; geometricCOLOREDshapes, would be pasted on a tuval-..)(but this time what Ucut&pasted are; Human- dressedEntitiyFORMs.from absolute L a n d s, of the REALM s..)
* ...o f course, U have to, HAVE; " a fully-HUMAN_ socialist-body,-MACHiNE; " -fast' ened in sports-; and can improvise very fast with the paint..S O; U' r BODY; and both U' r Absolute Valume- RATiO; might have been, installed into; the same flow and mixed, in the PAiNt-space; -used while eXpression-..(abstract expression).. ...............( t h a t means; both U' r Human Body; and U'r Absolute-Ratio; has to be mixed in the space of Paint.. -f r e e l y..to every w a y-.. .... t h e n ; when in the computer SPACE; - that is a absolute Valume providing -Machine with the Programs..- U may find b o t h, U' r Human BODy; and U'r Absolute RATiO; i n the computer to ; OPARATE- O N; &DRESS; that Human Body; w i t h ; t h e s e; " ABSOLUTE ENTiT y R E A L - T H i N G s.." ..
Michael, if was to tell in; one sentence..
Yes a painting can be abstract and figurative; at the same time; and that is an " Abstract eXpressionist; painting " ,and then; , if U process i t; -only by using computer and U' r RATiO- P U R E L Y;- these F i g u r e s that has LEAKED i n, the abstract-expressioist-painting , -that LEAKED; " f i g u r e s of GOD's Creation " but now in " scientifically determinable s h a p e s " i n the " Abstraction' s Absoluted-ARAREAS " ; can be DRESSED as; " REAL-ENTiTy-FORMs " instead of these, " system-Creatured under-siegeing F i G U R E S " ; in the " abstact-expressionist-PAiNTiNG s.."
* abstract-expressionist artist; seiges HiMSELF/HER self; ..volunteer ly ,not seiged BYtheSYSTEM..-
... a n d that w i l l; b e; aNEW-A G E; , that abstract -expressionism can have a ; " ABSTRACT-iMPRESSİonist "; E R A;(aMiRoR image-STATE to Abstract-expressionism), instead of; " NEO-ABSTRACT-ExPRESSiONism' S "..repeating S..
t h a t, i s also; ; art's (as stuck in , a socialist workers abstract-expressionsim-,STYLE ) ..c a n EVOLVE; to a n e w ; " i D E A L; CAPİTAList S P A C E -inHOLDiNG BUiLDiNGs,4now.. "..(where REALMy-REAL T H i N G S, as they were DRESSED; H U M A N- F i g u r e s; and will be only on WALL's 2 dimensional; painting-spaces , -as PLOTTER POSTERs-; to pretend the ultimate-piece; to the ROOM -SPACES.. -even to one lonely people, that will fight with himself; i n s i d e the ROOM; ; if no one is around.. L i K E; ..m M e..-)
Murat Oktay Danış • Michael, can we say that, abstract painting has to be made," in a hurry "..t o free t h e " art y .. t h i n g s ".. (V e r y Quick.. work..) S O, ratio can not include i n .and around , art y things that have freed themselves i n art F i e l d..
.. (but ratio will somehow L E A K in; the a r t..field ( - if abstraction takes place there- ).. -in a basic and u n i c , way- ......... -because RATiO; h a s to b e; leaked in ,using all it' s original dimension, only that will make ratio i n artİ with it' s unic and basic dimension.... ; NO b o d y; or NO-mind hasn't installed, it i n....-even artist's mind-.. ) ..(art field is not a field to " a Liberalism to human Mind-Ratio " ..man has to use his " RATiO; like a HAND " ;and computer a s an instrument i n the hand, & i n between..
(my opinion if there is RATiO-leaked in abstract impro; then it has to be worked and progressed only by the means of computer spaces..not by using one' s M i n d..)
................ and that is different than f r e e dom to, art- t h i n g s.. b y , abstract expressionist improvisations at o n c e..with the paint..
DO; not add, U' r artistic RATiO; and M i n d in the work, then -after- -still with the paint-, ,that means..) ..if U could put U' r Mind&Ratio when abstracting,,(that is the true way..) then improve U' r , s o u l and RATiO; b y ; cleaning your EXPRESSiON; ; o u t of your work.. in the computer.. S O; the RATiO- F o r ms -that abstraction has put i n- ; will b e ; U N i F i E D..and REALiZED.. (by using computer-machine only, to clean that eXpression..and extend the " forms - that are in true and absolute- abstraction "; of the soul and ratio.that has leaked in eXpressionist freedoms.i n the art -work-F i e l d..)
the result: if U, freely eXpress U'r self , (very Quick working); -to free things-, then U'r Ratio must have been ExPRESSED; i n that free ly abstracted, Absolute s p a c e.. t o o..
F r e e the body -as free things- ; t h e n; U' r R a t i o; will b e ; F r e e d ..to be Made; r e a l; i n computer-Machine..
p.s...e x cuse me, for many; r e P E A T s -in my writing-....(that is how my M i n d Works; -L i k e; an i D i O T; Computer- ( 4 I 've iNSTALLED; a computer in my M i n d...i n years..)
.. (but ratio will somehow L E A K in; the a r t..field ( - if abstraction takes place there- ).. -in a basic and u n i c , way- ......... -because RATiO; h a s to b e; leaked in ,using all it' s original dimension, only that will make ratio i n artİ with it' s unic and basic dimension.... ; NO b o d y; or NO-mind hasn't installed, it i n....-even artist's mind-.. ) ..(art field is not a field to " a Liberalism to human Mind-Ratio " ..man has to use his " RATiO; like a HAND " ;and computer a s an instrument i n the hand, & i n between..
(my opinion if there is RATiO-leaked in abstract impro; then it has to be worked and progressed only by the means of computer spaces..not by using one' s M i n d..)
................ and that is different than f r e e dom to, art- t h i n g s.. b y , abstract expressionist improvisations at o n c e..with the paint..
DO; not add, U' r artistic RATiO; and M i n d in the work, then -after- -still with the paint-, ,that means..) ..if U could put U' r Mind&Ratio when abstracting,,(that is the true way..) then improve U' r , s o u l and RATiO; b y ; cleaning your EXPRESSiON; ; o u t of your work.. in the computer.. S O; the RATiO- F o r ms -that abstraction has put i n- ; will b e ; U N i F i E D..and REALiZED.. (by using computer-machine only, to clean that eXpression..and extend the " forms - that are in true and absolute- abstraction "; of the soul and ratio.that has leaked in eXpressionist freedoms.i n the art -work-F i e l d..)
the result: if U, freely eXpress U'r self , (very Quick working); -to free things-, then U'r Ratio must have been ExPRESSED; i n that free ly abstracted, Absolute s p a c e.. t o o..
F r e e the body -as free things- ; t h e n; U' r R a t i o; will b e ; F r e e d ..to be Made; r e a l; i n computer-Machine..
p.s...e x cuse me, for many; r e P E A T s -in my writing-....(that is how my M i n d Works; -L i k e; an i D i O T; Computer- ( 4 I 've iNSTALLED; a computer in my M i n d...i n years..)
Murat Oktay Danış • ...can we say, , that; " transitional works " , can be described a s, " transcendental "; i f there is an " installed computer " i n the painter' s brain before his/her free-abstract expression improvisations, with paint.. (as PAiNT; was a transitional; MEDiUM inbetween, ..too..) " a twice transition " , will t a k e us, to a transcendental state, may b e.. ( i n M A Y..)
Murat Oktay Danış • http://vimeo.com/37592516
I liked that, Todie.. (there occures,appears, " a REAL BODy"; in the result Picture..of this naked act, video; from figure to REALM s), I s a w.
..and these " digital squares " -of U' r s-... in Figurative art w o r k s; -of other artists- may be, opened transitional " windows " .. -theycan b e, bases to pass into a " transcendental WORLD " of these famous artists; (but w e are not them, and that train has gone, SO ..-) .. because t h e y studied, these works " f i g u r at i v e l y " .. (They did not , computerized their b r a in s, ( -nor digitalized themselves by writing Alphabeth latters to the papers with their -touching and lifting pen, 1.&0- H a n d s ... (I do write, 3000 letters to one piece of paper -as my face looks at that " paper-mask " , for 1 and a helf hour- , every morning to digitalize my artist; Brain -linked to by acting body- and that brain will learn my body in " quant-squares " .. and my writing has 4 sides like a tuval..that means I write 4 otherwritings on one paper.. and every tuval has to talk from it's 4 sides..)
..." 4 a transition " , to " a Transcendental; C U B E ".. (o f the REAL ..or where real can H a p p e n..
.......as absolute RATiO; E x i s t s; in that C u b e.. because,of this eXpressed -and parallel to that-; " abstract expressionist " flow of our, naked; b o d y..within t h e paint..)
Murat Oktay Danış • RE: "Michael, can we say that, abstract painting has to be made," in a hurry "..t o free t h e " art y .. t h i n g s ".. (V e r y Quick.. work.."
No I would not say that at all...it is about "attention" and not time!
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...when do u pay " ATTENTiON " ; T H E MOST..? W H E N; " improvising..a t once "..
..i f U need " super attention " U have to improvise. (very quick &freely)..
When with "impro ", ..contra jobs occur in there..for example, U have to remamber while U have t o , forget; simultaneously..ONLy that will c l e a n; unnecessary things from the genuine " a r t sayings "- track " where " human-art-conscious " , i n art, will be excluded..
...so, to pay attention to that " a r t TRACK-sayings happen spontaneously "; o r, " art saying itself, " will be clean, o r PURE;,or spontaneous, by the highest attention, i n art job. (that is not the attention to put pressure on our conscious, and heavy- mind s , to form a total BODy; from them, when arting.., forexemple..)
..if a r t can not be in " impro "; it will not be clean..b e c a u s e, paintings couldn't b e clean,if they carried that; " arty-conscious ", i n the art.. (that would be kept, , out of paintings; and b e put i n t o, " contemporary things " to , " where they belong "..and that will MAKE; " that action of contemporary-art " )..
..( ..to clean arty-consciouses and concepts o u t of " t h e pure Painting -that is purifying the PAiNT in fact..- ) " ...
.. if improvisational painting should HAPPEN; ; that contemporary-art; wouldn' t b e.. (SO THEY give TEXT s, to show U how U have to put U' r " ultra actived -but passive in fact- m i n d s ", & can install these activating facts , back into the daily- things or " universal- MASS "
* where they have come from, &be installed into our minds.in daily l i v e s...- ..
..b u t the only; " f i n e art- WAY " , here i s, " i m p r o " .( will clean a r t itself, - CLEAN-when creating - ; ) only ... " simultaneously-and SPONTANEOUSLy " ; twice at O N C E..
Murat Oktay Danış • Michael, SO, you are, " talking on the track "..(that we are Walking i n..)
....When it is " free and absolute-improvisation at ONCE; " ...Y e s , there is NO more me and you; or anyONE, t h e r e.. b u t, " the defination o f t h e H U M A N, " , is included in ..
( and that is fair enough for the artist to b e in art; , if art will b e, , PURE, SO..)
," the spontaneous and simultaneous a r t D o ing ", and the " the only -and the lonely-CREATOR; -t h e GOD- " d o e s his JOB, (or eXists there), ; b u t, " including Human inside art medium " ,& with the creation; ,that T i M E.. (creation has to be translated to HUMAN; way of DOing..-i n the style of art- ..so human should not serve to those creations of the-ugly, - if does not intended to do so- ..)
S O if we come to that question ? ..CAN A PAiNTiNG BE ABSTRACT AND FiGURATiVE at the SAME T i M E..
...only i n fast and quick iMPROViSATi O N ; man can act faster than " creation " ..(that means U are not creating ,U are exploading up, and destroying " the created "..GOD should say, " I created U but U are " breaking into pieces - every thing-.." ..belief of an artist' s h e r e is, " my GOD; U c a n EVEN; create what I have " PUT i n PiECE s , immediately" .. " h e r e in that small t i m e i n t e r v a l. (while I am breaking it into piece s..) ..t o o
...SO Amy says, " there is always an i m a g e in the abstract " (while I am inbetween,in a mood..)...
" İ m a g e " in art, i s based on; HUMAN existance or, d e f i n a t i o n -of HUMAN-, t h e r e, in art.." U can MAKE; an image " , but " that i m a g e may not b e; P U R E " if made.. ARTiST, has to forget everything ( when improvisation takes place ), -forget E V E N Him/herself- (when broken into pieces), t h e n has to remember him/her self a s a H u m a n defination (or rememberance); t h a t i s " R e a l " i M A G E ..(occured in the paint; or in an alphabeth mass..whatever is, the medium of arting)
S O; i f there o c c u r e s; an i M A G E; (that is not a figure but an image; and w e can " F i G U R E -that image- ; O U T "; while watching a r t -W O R K..) t h e n; figure making in art F i e l d; i s; the thing that ; art-READER in Mind-ARTiSTs DOes;
( -there is an image that has occured in their head and they READ i t and F i g u r e it out with the paint..; as to help to the Art-watcher-people can figure o u t images, i n real art Works, too.. but they destroy the purity of the PAiNT; that would only be used to FORM; " r e a l i m a g e " , body i n g..)
.... for people, -for them- to teach them to read ; " i m a g e s " as they have to F i g u r e , them while looking at art medium.. .. ; t h e r e in the L i b e r a l F i e l d of paint- a r t's; " r e a l i m a g e i n g s " ..
SO, I call " a r t History teacher-Artists " , are , 4 the people; ( all that , art-History painters..) that has figured " real art i m a g e s " o n b e half of people should DO; 4 t e m selves..(Picasso was the teacher in ART' s " art-Highschool-where people l e a r n art " ; and as he said too, h e couldn't " paint l i k e a child;" , ; i n the u n i v e r s a l UNiVERCiTy, o f t h e a r t s. m e d i u m.
....When it is " free and absolute-improvisation at ONCE; " ...Y e s , there is NO more me and you; or anyONE, t h e r e.. b u t, " the defination o f t h e H U M A N, " , is included in ..
( and that is fair enough for the artist to b e in art; , if art will b e, , PURE, SO..)
," the spontaneous and simultaneous a r t D o ing ", and the " the only -and the lonely-CREATOR; -t h e GOD- " d o e s his JOB, (or eXists there), ; b u t, " including Human inside art medium " ,& with the creation; ,that T i M E.. (creation has to be translated to HUMAN; way of DOing..-i n the style of art- ..so human should not serve to those creations of the-ugly, - if does not intended to do so- ..)
S O if we come to that question ? ..CAN A PAiNTiNG BE ABSTRACT AND FiGURATiVE at the SAME T i M E..
...only i n fast and quick iMPROViSATi O N ; man can act faster than " creation " ..(that means U are not creating ,U are exploading up, and destroying " the created "..GOD should say, " I created U but U are " breaking into pieces - every thing-.." ..belief of an artist' s h e r e is, " my GOD; U c a n EVEN; create what I have " PUT i n PiECE s , immediately" .. " h e r e in that small t i m e i n t e r v a l. (while I am breaking it into piece s..) ..t o o
...SO Amy says, " there is always an i m a g e in the abstract " (while I am inbetween,in a mood..)...
" İ m a g e " in art, i s based on; HUMAN existance or, d e f i n a t i o n -of HUMAN-, t h e r e, in art.." U can MAKE; an image " , but " that i m a g e may not b e; P U R E " if made.. ARTiST, has to forget everything ( when improvisation takes place ), -forget E V E N Him/herself- (when broken into pieces), t h e n has to remember him/her self a s a H u m a n defination (or rememberance); t h a t i s " R e a l " i M A G E ..(occured in the paint; or in an alphabeth mass..whatever is, the medium of arting)
S O; i f there o c c u r e s; an i M A G E; (that is not a figure but an image; and w e can " F i G U R E -that image- ; O U T "; while watching a r t -W O R K..) t h e n; figure making in art F i e l d; i s; the thing that ; art-READER in Mind-ARTiSTs DOes;
( -there is an image that has occured in their head and they READ i t and F i g u r e it out with the paint..; as to help to the Art-watcher-people can figure o u t images, i n real art Works, too.. but they destroy the purity of the PAiNT; that would only be used to FORM; " r e a l i m a g e " , body i n g..)
.... for people, -for them- to teach them to read ; " i m a g e s " as they have to F i g u r e , them while looking at art medium.. .. ; t h e r e in the L i b e r a l F i e l d of paint- a r t's; " r e a l i m a g e i n g s " ..
SO, I call " a r t History teacher-Artists " , are , 4 the people; ( all that , art-History painters..) that has figured " real art i m a g e s " o n b e half of people should DO; 4 t e m selves..(Picasso was the teacher in ART' s " art-Highschool-where people l e a r n art " ; and as he said too, h e couldn't " paint l i k e a child;" , ; i n the u n i v e r s a l UNiVERCiTy, o f t h e a r t s. m e d i u m.
Murat Oktay Danış • A r t s are made with the elements o f the matter..(sound, light letters e.c.t.) (t h e A t o m )..and ATOMs can r e a l i z e; H U M A N;(can see or feel) too, as " we can realize t h e m ".. (and painting is where they r e a l i z e , , their vision -w i e v- of , " the H u m a n, T H i N g ".. (an extrime i d e a, but; d i r e c t..I think..)..
.. and sometimes " that wiev i n g s of Human in the Paint, -expressed or impressed; b y A T O M s- " , might b e; usefull ,because we (our cells ) are made of Atom s, t o o.. and w e are not made o f cells o n L y. (so we are the only & the lonely with OUR Atoms..-and that lonely n e s s is made ; o f Atoms as they are our closest friends in us.., too..and they can f e e l..us as " Human-things "..) (we take our consummate Forms from our Atoms, I think; , not from our heavenly cells, o n l y..)
.. and sometimes " that wiev i n g s of Human in the Paint, -expressed or impressed; b y A T O M s- " , might b e; usefull ,because we (our cells ) are made of Atom s, t o o.. and w e are not made o f cells o n L y. (so we are the only & the lonely with OUR Atoms..-and that lonely n e s s is made ; o f Atoms as they are our closest friends in us.., too..and they can f e e l..us as " Human-things "..) (we take our consummate Forms from our Atoms, I think; , not from our heavenly cells, o n l y..)
Murat Oktay Danış • .. you can't , " equate language and art. "
I have something to say begining from that concept in this sentence.. ..I do write with my hand (that is a drawing ,too) every day, what I lived..(and I do live when I am writing too..) and I know these letters of alphabeth and words have colors, sound, sign, move, e.c.t. -that are the elements of arts- when I write them they will come from my inside.. THAT WRiTiNG; is a B A S E; for m y, " free P a i n t i n g s , with pure paint.." .....
....that m e a n s, , writing is a way to draw l i n e s , to tell a story..b u t these abstract and geometric -put in pieces- and digitalized lines -letters- are the base for " MODERN l y; a c t i n g "; i n art, with the pure-paint..
... because -MODERN is the way to define n e w " U t o p i a of t h e M A N "- ..(Modernisms were trying to be Modern, somehow but they couldn't reach to tha Utopia-State..)
...to b e ,MODERN with ONLY-one technic....T u v a l ; has 4 sides; ; (my writing must have 4 other parts too). (that means, I have to write 4 parts, like a symphony d o e s, too..) (in fact our RATiO; knows that " 4Sides " of the tuval;(while painting) and it automatically devides the subject of the painting i n t o 4 , too, i f our RATiO has been L i b e r a l i z e d; by a very free, painting and a Liberal Writing just before painting....
(what I am telling is; I write in 4 parts; and because tuval is 4 sided; Subject of the painting will " t a k e birth " in the 4 S i d e s of the tuval ; i f we paint; freely.
....that also means; " t h e U t o p i a of M e n (human) " ; occures Liberally in the 4 sides of the tuval; a n d w e have to t u r n; the T u v a l; to find out these other definations, on each " 4 Sides " ..MODERN UTOPiC M E N; is P U R E; and even untouched by the ARTiST..him/her self..
...S O what I say is, , Liberalization o f the " utopic-Pure-m a n -dafination " has to be based i n ; and ( emerge i n, the paint then) after the DRAWiNG o f the ; -put in pieces and digitalized- (non traditional lines..) lines of l e t t e r s ; of the AlphaBeth..
..I am a child;too, , but I am r e a l y, " WRiTiNG" " (instead of drawing figures -a child tries to write letters only to put in pieces the lines of the drawing-) everything; instead of, READiNG; L E T T E R s.. (where they install everything in m e -if someone has written them- , and make me a passive person;...... instead I have to write the things that will appear in the paint, only.. ) ..i f U are an artist, U have to write even what U have to READ.. (install things in U when writing..with U'r hand)
(that means, I install the things from my l i f e; into Alphabeth letters then, they are preserved in the letter lines and have a new birth i n the P u r e Paint space..when painting..)
...S O ; is this " Writing-WAY ; B A S E " , is the WAY to " the CLEAR- O r d e r ", to , t h e , a r t DO ings.. ( I MAKE WRiTing ; SO -but-, I Do not MAKE; a painting..)
.. ( a long writing again..forgive m e 4 that..I have used to write every thing, once.. )
Murat Oktay Danış • Gary, would you agree that art History (as a science) makers are somehow " RATiO " users ( like architects) . a n d art it self c o m e s from the HAND- u s e , only..
...(art is a HAND- b a s e, action that happens and occures i n the " hands ".. -here heart is a " hand "-; ,
compared to the brain and heart has a memory other than the memory o f the Brain ,and art has to walk i n that kind of memory (of hearts)..- and on the other hand , ratio can leak i n t o art-work of course (there wouldn't be anything -or anywhere where RATiO can not exist, or b e ,universally).. but, ratio installation into art has to be ,unconsciously..)
..that also means, I am not with , installed-RATiOs; and ORDERing Consciousness i n art s..as it is put, into the Forms of art..
RATiO;
......i t c a n appear i n art-work; and can be evaluated i n computer programs o n l y.. ( RATiO can act -just like an architect does- ,i n a painting .. that is only to cut, paste,turn, stretch; with only imaginary-cuting-l i n e s i n editing.... on a improvised-painting ..... .as that RATiO , still -stays- i n the " acting with the B r a i n "..(although we use our hands on the computer keyboard ...)
" U " can not, drive your RATiO-l i n e s -when drawing, o r into the paint- as to fill i n " U'r " RATiO-orders, to be installed i n other's brains.. ( J. Pollock's drippings were lines including his ratio-i n; but these lines were in the absolute volume &ready-made Form o f " a t o m s " -out of the organic-brain and the " & organic character of the human-Ratio " .. .. I guess..)
( so religion and State orders l e a k in, or take place, in a r t' s a r e a , i n fact ...and p u r e art has to be cleaned, from these o r d e r s..and this can happen i f only heart and hand i s i n use.. ..only..)
...(art is a HAND- b a s e, action that happens and occures i n the " hands ".. -here heart is a " hand "-; ,
compared to the brain and heart has a memory other than the memory o f the Brain ,and art has to walk i n that kind of memory (of hearts)..- and on the other hand , ratio can leak i n t o art-work of course (there wouldn't be anything -or anywhere where RATiO can not exist, or b e ,universally).. but, ratio installation into art has to be ,unconsciously..)
..that also means, I am not with , installed-RATiOs; and ORDERing Consciousness i n art s..as it is put, into the Forms of art..
RATiO;
......i t c a n appear i n art-work; and can be evaluated i n computer programs o n l y.. ( RATiO can act -just like an architect does- ,i n a painting .. that is only to cut, paste,turn, stretch; with only imaginary-cuting-l i n e s i n editing.... on a improvised-painting ..... .as that RATiO , still -stays- i n the " acting with the B r a i n "..(although we use our hands on the computer keyboard ...)
" U " can not, drive your RATiO-l i n e s -when drawing, o r into the paint- as to fill i n " U'r " RATiO-orders, to be installed i n other's brains.. ( J. Pollock's drippings were lines including his ratio-i n; but these lines were in the absolute volume &ready-made Form o f " a t o m s " -out of the organic-brain and the " & organic character of the human-Ratio " .. .. I guess..)
( so religion and State orders l e a k in, or take place, in a r t' s a r e a , i n fact ...and p u r e art has to be cleaned, from these o r d e r s..and this can happen i f only heart and hand i s i n use.. ..only..)
Murat Oktay Danış • Timothy, it is not only that grammar ..(in fact I am think i n g , in an other language and what U read has an other sound into the ear and brain ..alike English ,in my ears and i n my brain.. )
..o n the other hand, I have to improvise with English Language; -and with my brain- and both Alphabeth letters and mixture of t h i n g s , has to abstract m y mind simultaneously..
..S o, yes my writings are difficult to read; and they need to be translated into academic-languge, also.. b u t ,when this difficulty ; i s overwhelmed; " i t " might b e , " cristal clear " what I may b e , saying.. (because Turkish Language' s sound-sturucture is " clear as a water " , that flows, t h e y say.... -in my mind at least-. .and I have to b e clear to myself, i n the first hand..)
..o n the other hand, I have to improvise with English Language; -and with my brain- and both Alphabeth letters and mixture of t h i n g s , has to abstract m y mind simultaneously..
..S o, yes my writings are difficult to read; and they need to be translated into academic-languge, also.. b u t ,when this difficulty ; i s overwhelmed; " i t " might b e , " cristal clear " what I may b e , saying.. (because Turkish Language' s sound-sturucture is " clear as a water " , that flows, t h e y say.... -in my mind at least-. .and I have to b e clear to myself, i n the first hand..)
Murat Oktay Danış • Consepts are flying, a r o u n d; L i K E; " UFO' s " ..
In m y oppinion, (or where DO I take, all these ); I agree with what Michael said..(because they are in scientific-logic ;and with public's order..). I also agree with, Gary, too..( Gary is talking on the left side, for " right " has been corropted, o n c e -&is today ,too-; because they were not scientific,y e t, ; in the mean time..)
Where DO; I stand in all these conversations..
F i r s t of all..in my understanding," BODY is Brain "; and " Brain is not BODy " ..(that means just like, our brains go out to shape our Bodies,&actions; ;reversely; (as a mirror-image) ; OUR; B o d i e s; can be installed into our BRAiNs and shape our Brain-inner-sides...
t h i s is; ,if I make sports, or write ,or play piano, (these are doings in deciplines; L i k e our Bodies have a self-decipline as theyHave aShape, too;-that isSame-..) then we locate (or install ) our body-shapes; into our Brains.. (that means, public-architect orders are not " GOD ";for our; being Unified union-members&flowTogether like animal-crowds..(be fluidized, by someCovboyArchitects....)
( we can locate -or install- our " d e e d s" ;" -ready-object- BODies-; to clean; " other shapes " -put in our brains by public architects-.. -or turn them into- to "true-BODY-objects " in, the brain..t h a t will be a natural " thing " to b e, in the BRAiN..
( s e x ; other than sports, is an other; Body-object installation; in to the B r a i n, too.. there are 2 bodies doubling the BODY-content-upgrade ; into 2 Brains, there..)
...in f a c t..Bodies o f HUMAN; has to stand; , N E A R..(song STAND BY M E..)
.... and sports and sex or " deciplinized and systematic DOings c a n produce BODY-like-deeds-things "stand b y US ...
. i n reality every person (every BODy ) can not stand parellel to each other ..(if U are not i n theArmy..) .. S O; " BODiEs located in the brains " , has to stand&beSTiLL.. (when I write my writing in the morning, m y BODY is installed into my brain -and into the PUBLiC materials, put in my brain by free perceptions..- ; and whole day; NO ONE; can change, the way my BODy-STANDs-in my brain- .. ..
" O N E M i n d " concept.. A r t has to be; done byONEunic-BODY. b u t that BODY can be multiple, if U have multi talents & d e e d -up s; these multi BODies..(that means, U'r body can DO; many things..O N E can be a basketball player, a musician, a writer, a painter, e.c.t. all inONE-BODy..
S O; U can multiply U'r BODy; (but still Unic, if U DO them, all in ONE-DAY) &; U still have to have ;" ONE BRAiN ".. (..if U are to be, an ART i s t..4 anART-WORK..)
There are " right i s t " P E O P L E; in the Public ,and they multiply their BRAi n s; and try to u s e, " O T H E R' s ; -B O D i e s "..-in the serve of their unified-Public-BRAin-RATiOs-. contrary to Human-Bodies-united..(,instead of workers-unions there has to be artists that can multiply-BODies, but still has ONE-BRAiN; and ; O N E M i n d, in their art-LAND-BODY i n g s..
; S O; in a n art- W o r k, there has to be; M u l t i-BODiES; b u t,o n e-Brain-absoluteVolume .. (SO there will b e, that; U N i C-absoluteRATiO; -notUnified- but leaked in uniFormly2Make " F O R M; of the art "..)
F i n a l l y,L i f e; (righters and lefters ; & artists in it) produces all these PUBLiC-OBJECTs; that our M i n d; catches; &includes i n..then be able to pour them into art mediums .. (so a child can not make art..because can not catch these " all objects " , from both left and right ,s i d e s..)
p.s. left & right S i d e s; are; essential to M a k e a " M i rr o r " i m a g e. " .and a " Mirror image "; added to the original-nature; will produce both WORLD-natural, and The OTHER-ATOMiC-WORLDs. in art i n g.. (that means " original-Body-shape of GOD's HUMAN " ; can be " miror-imaged ; in ARTs,too.
(No need 2 negative energy &BODying..of righters ,in the world)
Murat Oktay Danış • ..Ko,do not worry mine..( my brain and my ass a r e still SCREWable..that means they still are tube to transfer things..or they are to transfer " T U B E s to the tubeless " .. )
,,..U have to focus on " shit moved back i n t o t h e , Bra i n s ". and there are some, w h o think with " tastefull idea salads ".. (but their brain has been ONLY stomachs to digest every t h i n g , w i t h acid s.)
..but " Z e n " does not E A T..anything .. (to o p e n , a W i D E; W i n d o w in the Bra i n.)..(which I adore )
" W i d e UP; U' r Window " ; , " to a SQUARE " ( I hope ) ; ..then .." U " wouldn't t h i n k , that " f l i g h t of m i n e " ; ,w a s ,a SCREW.. (for I am, s t a n d i n g at the corners of the SQUARE, o n l y , while writing.. with the keyboard .. especially..)
...screwing " this way; and thatway " "that way and thisWay "; ; makes " a SQUARE " , then..and these 4-S i d e s can not b e E v o l v e d to a C i r c l e, to be bowled-dawn from the bottom e n d. (but even that is better then " shit or food in the brain " ).. (or art-making-knowledge; installed into a r t-Work..while D O i n g, art..)
...but I Liked " U gave a chance to write " , , the way " I am D O i n g " , h e r e..
Murat Oktay Danış • ..my opinion is..multi talented person has to let every thing in life and has to practice them (talents) full time. (then they may be collected in one " case " and they will work together and interactively..) (that also means, U have to put all these multi talent-works in " ONE-day "..and U have to live just for this unify ing ..only.. ..that is " to be professional i n art ", (2) 4 m e.
Secondly, I would rather be in -for example in 4 art deciplines- but not educated in any of them; instead of a perfect-study and education i n one art decipline. t h e n ı would expect these 4 deciplines might catch " that THiNG ", called art..(or define, what is necessery 4 art to happen..) I am an Chemical engineer but Iwas a High scholl chemistry teacher for 4 and a helf years (to marry a girl) then I gave all my afforts to be in art mediums and in my multi talents..(if U are in them, they -the THiNGs of art- may find " U " ,too..I guess; and here at that point; I belive in GOD; ; that will guide me to travel in art mediums..while I travel in m e..) and if I can be in me -and in art mediums-; art will have to, find itself ; i n m e. -and in the pure mediums of the arts..-
..I wouldn't listen to these art critics who will say " what art is " ..(or art educaters..).instead I would wait for art to happen ; i n me; and in my multi talents and in multi-mediums of the matter. i f art will" prove &define " itself , t o me. then I will belive in art and I can belive every thing inthrough-art..(and me) .. I think..
Murat Oktay Danış • ..if Aliens of OTHER-WORLD's -or,other realms- , should come to enrich the earth's poverty & misery of life; ( maybe they are making lifeSOcomplex NOWDays , by leaking in our natural and pure biological and fine-social lives and happen i n the public-life..-is a mixture of -separated- WARHOLL -soups. -.onlySEXcanCLEANthem- )
..t h e n, I would expect them to " come " from the " rocks " (not from the space) or from the meltedONCE- concrete WALLS , that we have made ; i n our cities.. ..(that means, Aliens or Angels or beings of other worlds has to pass from a filter (that is a solid rock where atoms are standing as a barrier..) then to stay J u s t on the surface of the wall and can not be three-dimensional like us in the world..(no problem, then)
a n d, the atoms of the rocs or concrete has translated them into our humanly-defined Forms, -and shapes-.. ..(that means they will show themselves to us as posible as they can convert themselves..) ( C o n v e r t e d; because of A t o m s they just have passed i n, to come , to the surface..of the rocks..or concrete..) (or they would b e, TRANSLATiNG their Existance s to; the FORMS o f " ATOM structures -or architecture of atoms- ".. (-as they are b e i n g s , like u s;) -but can translate and mirrorize a t o m s , to u s.-..) that would b e the most i n t e l l e c t u a l T H i N G;, to m e. in the World. ( that I would only feel and read their tales -of ATOM dressed-beings- , only by the means of my ; " t h e RATiO "..)
S O, I can call " M y ; multi-talented &multi-deciplinezied &multi-systemic, acts a s they are my WORK; to leak m e into art material s " ..(MAKESme, " A worker " who tries to dive in the MATTER ) .. ( Matter separeted i nto ,art mediums and materials ) ) .. (so art materials are to be " different DOORs ", into t h e matter ) .. (if U are to work in art U wouldn'T avoid any of these DOORs..) ..but i n " art world ", they educate students to MAKE;" a GATE-WAY " ; from ; one of these, materials -or mediums- for a r e a l ,a Passable-perfect-DOOR to " theOTHER-WORLDs " if made of one materialONLY.. (in ONE art) ..for example, " we can find that perfect- DOOR "; in one of Betoween' s M u s i c s.. -they expect-, or a painters Painting,..MONA L i SA;wherePAiNTER h i d es; a UFO under aLADYfigurePainted-canvas-cover.. e.c.t.
What ı am telling is , " WE have to use art " , to leak in the MATTER (at least our soul will leak in the ARTmaterials) ; we (with OUR BODY) have to l e a k in; (or pass to the other side; of ATOMs..
..t h a t is if I am in the Paint and I could leak into the atoms of the paint; -and dressed them- then ," if " , I can a c t, in these a t o m s; t h e n we shouldn't n e e d those alliens to dress, and BEin , our WaLLs&A t o m s..
ThisWAS; too much " exaggerating " !!!; b u t, it is the realms (" other-worlds") (for US to act i n; LiBERALLy ) if we can only " WALK; into " A T O M S, (by USing ART's technics) (where ATOMs are " very close ", to u s)..and that will be " the W O R K "; ; done on that e a r t h.. (THAT is my UTOPiA..)
..and if U think that U have leaked into that WALL of atoms ; (mentally inU'r Brain & in U'r soul) then U have to FORCE i n physically too.. ( act freely in art mediums; and improvise fast , s o, then U'r BODy can find the way back to the " surface of the WALL ", once U WALKEDi n..
p.s.
..that is a tale; for " Architect' s-WALL s ofTHE C i t i e s.. .." for how they can be " AQuariums for; Space-Alien-beings "; , ( for US to be able to know our RATiOs..because only ratios can read these pictures.. a passage to the RATiO- A G E.)
.... instead of naked and -cut- and hunted , traditional creatures-of the world' s , -by using art technics- , ; should " live o n " , our i n n e r - W a l l s..
...O H! that has b e e n, a " M a n i Fe s t o. "
Murat Oktay Danış • * To go beyond that, one eventually has to unlearn all one knows if one is to enter unknown territory.
* "The man who deals with originality is desperately needed, but seldom wanted. For along with his promise of victory he lets loose the shadows of chaos."
_..from Michael's_posting..
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I was writing on these .but after one hour of writing; there was a electrocity c u t; and I lost all of it..(that made m e crazy..once written can not be written again in the same day I belive, so that day I am off..)
but; Gary and Ko..when I write, letters " abstract m e " to their lands of Alphabet's..( where I meet some " Alphabetical THiNGs " t h e r e..when I both d i v e in me and the d e e p L a n d s; o f the " Alphabeth;-TOTEM.. " )
.....in my daily " ONE-page" but " 4 writings; on a page " ; -format- ,perFormance-writings ,every writing has a " h e a d l i n e " ..SO there are 4 headlines; and a " final word " in capital letters .. but here; there are non of these, but some capital-lettered words; -in my writings here- instead of these " headlines.. I know these headlines in my head but, DO; not put them in my writins; ..SO; long lasting, " open end " writings occur and they can tell themselves, SO, ,in the long; r u n. (Y e s.)
Murat Oktay Danış • Gary, LetmeTellU what I did yesterday when elctricity-cut happened.(;&both cut myBODy and " guillotined " m yW r i t i n g ..(because I had laid -or installed- my whole BODy into that w r i t i n g , for instance..)
ThereWAS a WALL; deviding my saloon; (in my STUDiOhouse ) ( I MADEitUSing plaster-panels..with sound isolation.. and added Ablack-DOOR ,to it .. - whenWEwere using mySTUDiOas ourHOME - ; -now we carried a way our home to a mountain top near the AnkaraC i t y..)
I decided to BRAKE-dawn that WALL..(IneedAsaloon, in mySTUDio; ..) M a y be I might need a SLADGE-H a m m e r; to DO, that but Iwas very nervous; (there was electric and " elocto " C i t y ) in my BODy -to save my " written BODy " ; SO; I was like a electric-generatorTOmyComputer-
t h e n I used my l e g s to Brake- d a w n that ; WALL.. Just after that, I carried the residue and cleaned up the Studio; all i n " one-Day " ..
...b u t I did not; take off, the metal-frame , -that was carrying the plaster -panels- , and the " black-DOOR "; near the wall;it still eXists..
SO; there has o c c u r e d; a STAGE; -frame i n my saloon..I c a n be on both sides; and where ever I am; I can look at " a STAGE "..
(when it come s to that DOOR; ;
... it might be a passage to someWhere - -orNOWHERE- because " Stage-Frame " stays always " w i d e open ", why should anyONE ; o p e n that DOOR and walk intrough it..-near the stage- ..where does that door lead t o ; other than that stage l e a d s u s..(OTHERside,IGUESS) ..
if U open it 180 degree; then it can add a a " Blind-LOOK-Surface " s i g h t ; into that STAGE.. .. ( b u t Taken from the S T A G E; and added to theSTAGE (because;open-Black-DOOR now stands in the STAGE FRAME..
" THEYsaid" .. U shouldn't have made that " WALL "; that devides a big saloon..( but if I did not DO that wall, my family should still b e using my STUDiO SALOON; as a traditional H o u s e-Saloon..a traditional river flowing intrough m y; STUDiO..
..so now; if mission is complated; ; " I might brake dawn " the WALL " that I MADE; b y m y; ; " OWN; hands " " ..because My L e g s; Broke-DAWN; what my HANDs-MADE; ;m y RATiO could w o r k , -inBETWEENbetween-.. (as both 3 are in and with my W h o l e-BODy..)
(by the way, when someone makes ;-or DOes- " things on a tuval; or in a W r i t i n g ; or on a STAGE; " WHATmakesALLtheseDO i n g s " ; a r t ; i s; installing RATiO; i n ; to make thatBODy; W' H O L E..
(because, our RATiO; takes place in our BODY; but it is NOT; a part of our BODY..-may be it isABSOLUTE-part of our Atoms..as RATiOis absolute volume of atoms,can be installed into o u r brains..- )
.." there was a STORY "; in Liszts 2.PianoConcerto; Today, an hour ago, came to my ears as pure-sound; -not in words- .. there was L i sz t; on the Piano; telling WHAT he D i D; with his WHOLE BODY; and soul..-as a working hero- and there was that RATiO; (as Romantisism ) made it music-art to my ratio ; c o u l d read it..-from the unic ratio of Franz L i sz t ' s..
SOa r t mightHAPPENif; RATiO;-added;2AwholeBODY-picturing..; h e r e; is a multi WORKERS; multi-body and multi-DOings.. -in multi talents ..
(and if multi-talents; U shouldn't have to b e; having a deeply -or very-high or very powerfull- ONE TALENT..for one of t h e ART s.)
" M y; H a n d " ;" can sleep i n " ; Multi-DOings, where m y " Conscious is - E R A S E D " -by these, multi-doings-;
and it shall " APPEAR;i n ,art mediums " ; -as my hand can represent and install my BODy in the unified art-L a n d s-..
t h a t means, when I WRiTE; that WRiTiNG; m y H a n d ; has that Joy of; playing a Piano; Playing Baketball and making 3-points; or sliding a spatula on the multi-PAiNTs; w h e r e NEW ; " i m a g e s " can; i m e r g e..
..then acting with " my Body " i n any ; of these mediums -and instruments; -piano,basketball,pencil,orSPATULA- IamWiTHmywholeBODy.
..then when it comes to painting..while painting with the paint freely ,( with a spatula ) , , ,there is that " multi-installed deeds " of many catagories; , to occur in the paint; this t i m e..(they were installed into brain, , then they will o c c u r, in the paint..) What ever U do, freely, with the paint; these " multi-THiNGs " will try to pass inthrough to that body o f the paint.. What I am trying to say is, there will occur, a defination o f HUMAN; (or a human based a thing or a creature,,o r a gin..) . i n that paint-job. (because we all, have the shape of a HUMAN; - and we might have remembered that, in the scattering of art doings- , o n l y..) ..and that multi installation into brain as deeds of a multi figure person ,is to come to a " nearly-figure " position.. i n the PAiNT- body..
..should U begin with " drawing a figure first " , -than, fill in some other things while painting- to abstract i t,, o r is there a reverse w a y, ; ; to reach that; " hidden figure " (and this time figure will hide, itself in the paint,,as it was hidden in the brain while multi doings of that multi-figure, (multi THiNG ) person,,-the artist- )
..does any body ask that question..what is the main differance between us (our era, century) after modernism, and technology, ..and the former centuries people.(.are we living in these former centuries..) ..DOES Contemporary mean ; to live like multi-decipline artist, -that makes multi arts- ; e v e r y D a y.. (or is it to make himself/herself , " MANY-THiNGs " in the body of human..- and these many-things installed into brain is a true river to that " brain-defined; a r t " b a s e.. -a new era of defination- b a s e; i n a r t ; happenings..
CONTEMPORARY; art, w a s, an project o f, Architectural minds, and they made material contemporary; and still it couldn' t come to that; " MAKE, a r t ART MAKER- H U M A N, c o n t e m p o r a r y..
L e t and work for, multi-figures -AS THiNGs- , Happen in U..t h e n let them flow i n art materials , and than, define, both what Human and art i s..inthat flowing r i v e r.
I think that " near ly figure " ,i d o m, was c u t e.
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