21 Şubat 2014 Cuma

5. HAS ART LOST..

5. HAS ART LOST..
.....i t' S  " HUMAN i t y " ..

..i t; m u s t HAVE; FALLEN-D A W N; 
.. f r  o   M; the ; " CLiFF  eS " ..

(but the L e a v e s; of the TREE's;
" W O U L D;   n  O  Tt    ......        )



i f art is to b e; HUMANitive; t h e n; it has to b e; in "in the situation; of SUCKiNg " ;

..... or to b e ;   ,,, " SUCKed  " ..by the art lovers.
..because all nature; (an d Humanity) , goes; ON;w i t h the FLOW; o f,  " t h e S U C k ) ..

i s the Contemporary art, of Today; can  B E; SUCKED..

N O..
/( to suck,   U only need   " Lips  "  and strenght.(and a Human..)
but for today's contemporary-art; ; U n e e d;  "   eXTRA; T E X t,  s "   , that has to b e READ.  .. ( to be able ; to "  READ " ; the Main thing..MADE there) 

..that is i f someTHiNG; h a s to b e READ; then; it is not ART..   .."  it is a BOOK  " .


..are " WRiTERs " creative; then..

I WOULD; say; the main thing; i s RATiO; ON; writing..but i f U have creativitiy-skills; then; U a d d ; t h e m; i n; to gve color to U'r writing, with; a r t ..but a writer of a "prose " i s a " RATiO  ; U S E R "  ..and MAKES; every n e w ; THiNG; in writing; using ratio.

( with an Alphabeth; i n ..and,  ; what ever that; "  NEW- ALPHABETH   " ;  i  s; there has to BE; a N E W; alphabeth to MAKE; THOSE; N e w- THiNGs..


A l p h a Beths; a r e; not created..  .. t h e y  ARE;  M A D E-THiNGs..(Real Things Made; by the RATiO)


..w h e n U; GO; to  a contemporary art platform; there are ONLy; BOOKs; to read..though..

differance is; (TEXts are short; and U go on reading; with an OTHER-ALPHABETh -other than that; L a t i n ALPHAbeth- )
..and  "  ManyPEOPLE-M i d s  "  ; a r e ;" MADE; heavY " ; with that; LATiN-ALPHABETh.A L r e a d  y.

(may be that is reason; I am dancing with that AlphaBETH; to make it; Light; or to avoid accumulation; in MY;  M i n d ..s o; I might; stay; clever, evry-day)


..w h e n ; ALphabeth; changes; i t gives; a n e w ; feeling ; as if; someTHiNg; has been created; there.. b u t MADE-Things; can be NEW; but; there is not; " creative i t y " .

there. 
RATiO; i s ;  "  THE THiNG " ; that can MAKE;  " N E W-THings " ..
(SO; RATiO; is the sum(integral) o f; ,all-Things-That-can-BE-MADE..)
.. b  u  t  RATiO; c a n  not; create. (creativity does not; happen when U MAKE)
(... a r e we; clear with, THAT)


S  O; in contemporary art;  "   MADE-THiNGs  " ; ,are MADE; b y ; " RATiO's  N E W ; U S A G E s  " . (so there is the exploration of the "  RATiO  " ; that; o c c u r e s, there..by the  "  n e w ways  " ; o f MAKings; being; explored.)


"  RATiO  " ; h  a s ; NOTHiNG; to D O; with;  , " c r e a t i n g " ;  t  h  e n .

..and i f some-one is; MAKiNG; h e/she; i s not; creating..
..c r e a t i n g has to be; in a " FLOW " ; situation; and that flow do not allow; to MAKE-any-THiNG..

.. b  u  t ; it can; ,produce(MAKE); " a N E W-ALPHABETH "; 4 someONE; who should L i k e to Know; ; 

i  f  they can READ; w i t h ; an " O T H E R ";  ALPHAbeth; t o  o..
(then;U have to PRODUCE; a BOOK; to prectice;that ALPHabeth..)
(that is a ; CONTEMPORARY-art-MADE-Thing..)

( because , PEOPLE;  are; bored o f, the Latin ALPHA 'b e t h.  )

( but may b e; these; "  MADE; THiNGS " (of contemporary-art) are to READ; t h e i r; complex-M i n d s..( this T i m e ) and shall tell,t h e m;  basic-THiNGs(of the RATiO) ;  , &ONLy-these basic s; can " r e f r e s h " ; &ease, their-Minds.
...and these EASY-MADE; THiNGs;(of the contemporary) WiLL SHOW; t h e WAY  (with a NEW-ALPHABETh ; LETTERs)  ; that will ONLY;  "  clean  "   ; t h e i r ; bored-&-HEAVy-Minds ..

..i v e n t u a l l y; they WiLL; L e a v e ; the; gallery; with some NEW; " LETTERs " L e a r n e d;  (o  f  a N e w; ALPHABETh) ..(that is the contemporary-art-THiNG-thatHas beenM A D E ; to b e a n e w Alphabeth-in it-presented; -and a BOOK written  ; USiNG-that-AlphaB E T H ..(that is contemporarily-MADE-art..to be a book )


.. w i t h ;  a  " N  e w " ; ALPHA(theman) ; and; B E T H , ( the n e w ; LADy..)

that they've b e e n, " i n t r o d u c e d " ;  2.


Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
i f art is to b e; HUMANitive; t h e n; it has to b e; in "in the situation; of SUCKiNg " ;
..... or to b e ; ,,, " SUCKed " ..by the art lovers.
..because all nature; (an d Humanity) , goes; ON;w i t h the FLOW; o f, " t h e S U C k ) ..

i s the Contemporary art, of Today; can B E; SUCKED..
N O..
/( to suck, U only need " Lips " and strenght.(and a Human..)
but for today's contemporary-art; ; U n e e d; " eXTRA; T E X t, s " , that has to b e READ. .. ( to be able ; to " READ " ; the Main thing..MADE there)

..that is i f someTHiNG; h a s to b e READ; then; it is not ART.. .." it is a BOOK " .

..are " WRiTERs " creative; then..
I WOULD; say; the main thing; i s RATiO; ON; writing..but i f U have creativitiy-skills; then; U a d d ; t h e m; i n; to gve color to U'r writing, with; a r t ..but a writer of a "prose " i s a " RATiO ; U S E R " ..and MAKES; every n e w ; THiNG; in writing; using ratio.

( with an Alphabeth; i n ..and, ; what ever that; " NEW- ALPHABETH " ; i s; there has to BE; a N E W; alphabeth to MAKE; THOSE; N e w- THiNGs..

A l p h a Beths; a r e; not created.. .. t h e y ARE; M A D E-THiNGs..(Real Things Made; by the RATiO)

..w h e n U; GO; to a contemporary art platform; there are ONLy; BOOKs; to read..though..
differance is; (TEXts are short; and U go on reading; with an OTHER-ALPHABETh -other than that; L a t i n ALPHAbeth- )
..and " ManyPEOPLE-M i d s " ; a r e ;" MADE; heavY " ; with that; LATiN-ALPHABETh.A L r e a d y.

(may be that is reason; I am dancing with that AlphaBETH; to make it; Light; or to avoid accumulation; in MY; M i n d ..s o; I might; stay; clever, evry-day)

..w h e n ; ALphabeth; changes; i t gives; a n e w ; feeling ; as if; someTHiNg; has been created; there.. b u t MADE-Things; can be NEW; but; there is not; " creative i t y " .
there.
RATiO; i s ; " THE THiNG " ; that can MAKE; " N E W-THings " ..
(SO; RATiO; is the sum(integral) o f; ,all-Things-That-can-BE-MADE..)
.. b u t RATiO; c a n not; create. (creativity does not; happen when U MAKE)
(... a r e we; clear with, THAT)


S O; in contemporary art; " MADE-THiNGs " ; ,are MADE; b y ; " RATiO's N E W ; U S A G E s " . (so there is the exploration of the " RATiO " ; that; o c c u r e s, there..by the " n e w ways " ; o f MAKings; being; explored.)

" RATiO " ; h a s ; NOTHiNG; to D O; with; , " c r e a t i n g " ; t h e n .
..and i f some-one is; MAKiNG; h e/she; i s not; creating..
..c r e a t i n g has to be; in a " FLOW " ; situation; and that flow do not allow; to MAKE-any-THiNG..

.. b u t ; it can; ,produce(MAKE); " a N E W-ALPHABETH "; 4 someONE; who should L i k e to Know; ;
i f they can READ; w i t h ; an " O T H E R "; ALPHAbeth; t o o..
(then;U have to PRODUCE; a BOOK; to prectice;that ALPHabeth..)
(that is a ; CONTEMPORARY-art-MADE-Thing..)

( because , PEOPLE; are; bored o f, the Latin ALPHA 'b e t h. )
( but may b e; these; " MADE; THiNGS " (of contemporary-art) are to READ; t h e i r; complex-M i n d s..( this T i m e ) and shall tell,t h e m; basic-THiNGs(of the RATiO) ; , &ONLy-these basic s; can " r e f r e s h " ; &ease, their-Minds.
...and these EASY-MADE; THiNGs;(of the contemporary) WiLL SHOW; t h e WAY (with a NEW-ALPHABETh ; LETTERs) ; that will ONLY; " clean " ; t h e i r ; bored-&-HEAVy-Minds ..

..i v e n t u a l l y; they WiLL; L e a v e ; the; gallery; with some NEW; " LETTERs " L e a r n e d; (o f a N e w; ALPHABETh) ..(that is the contemporary-art-THiNG-thatHas beenM A D E ; to b e a n e w Alphabeth-in it-presented; -and a BOOK written ; USiNG-that-AlphaB E T H ..(that is contemporarily-MADE-art..to be a book )

.. w i t h ; a " N e w " ; ALPHA(theman) ; and; B E T H , ( the n e w ; LADy..)
that they've b e e n, " i n t r o d u c e d " ; 2. 


























































































E d e n,
..the fresh a i r; and the " stark-s i l a n c e " ; of that; AU; continent; " OPENs" U'r M i n d;  it seems; and there are; s o m e; sheer-EMPTy-spaces;STiLL-l e f t; (in the World w e L i v e  ,in)  ,i n U'r m i n d ;, so U c a n; R E A D, my, "  Long lasting-posts  " ..



I alSO; t h i n k; Too,   ; t h a t; ı have some " unic " experiments; t o " s h a r e "  ..
...t i m e; i s passing; and; my   " B  o n e s  "  will b e ; found;
with my a r t-eXperiments; ; w h e n ; some should c o m e ;
..t  o  ;  C L E A N;  "   t h e;  P L A C E  "  ..


..S O; I ve b e e n; on internet-SPACE;(My last 2-3 Years;every-day..)  to; say; &write; WHAT; I have M E A N T;(whenLiving-as-SO)
( and also; I DO e X p l o r e;  the; "  genuine-PROCEss " ;when Telling;  i  t )
(..because; I ONLy; LEARNED; H o w to;DO;
..and  "  MAKE; i t  " ; only..  when floWing in the proCess..)
w  h  e n ; DOing; and; eXperimenting; " t h e s e ;  a  l  l " ..
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I LOOKed at U'r FaceBook-art-Works..I am satified; with U'r "  artistic-talent.  ".(and that is the main THiNG; -I guess-..U'r drawings can go d e e p..-Paintings DO; not tell every thing; every time-..and,  I Think;  " U " ; can paint; i n many; WAYs..
; I would; w a n t; U to " eXperi e n c e ; that; " P a i n t " ing;  ;i n my; W A Y;
 ; -and as far as; " drawings; are deep-; U could, P A i N T; in that,  W A Y;  ;  t  o o;
 I can;  consider.. t h a t..)  ..
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I  THiNK; I have produced; a  " u n i c " ; art-DOing; PlatForm;(and Medium)  (that is a High-a-CLAim;I know)
..and; e v e r y-BORED;(or nearly-Bored)  a r t i s t; should;
... eXperience; " a N E W; L  i  f  e   " ; (in their arting-EFFORT)
 and a  n e w ; M e d i a;(PLATFORM) , to  their;
..MATURE-ART-MAKing-Capacity; a n d ;
 .. "  genuine-art-Making-&DOing-PERFORMance  s"  ..

(aren't there;  many-ARtists, that;
" they Think-; that,, these art-MAKiNG-PLATfORMs;
a  r  e ; to much, shallow; and DULL; t o their; perFormative-ACTiveness " ..
....2 these- ALREADy-reached; e s t a b l i s h e d ;   "  MATURE-ART-MAKing-performances  "..)
(isITfairMATUREartistsPAiNT; L i k e their-students;  ,STiLL..)

( because " they " can not give that chance; (and f r e e &AdvancedMEDiUMs)
 to " the-MATURE-ARTists " ,
t h e y; locate; s o m e ; "  n e w -MAKERs-of contemporary-ARCHitecture "..
" T O T H E M i  c -Lagends;i nFront; o f ;  U  S .. "
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..o f course; "  my PLATForms "  4art-MAKing-&DOing;  ; are; not for; Educating-Graunds....(in art-history-Directories)..
 b  u t  ,I  T h i n k;  ;  "  e v e r y; MATURE-ARTist;  , d e s e r v e   s;
" ADVANCE " ; M e d i u m s;
,, m u c h ; m o r e than; t h e s e ; o  f ;
 " art-History-BASED " ; conventional-O n e s.

(Let m e; be a  " smartass ";and say;  Picasso;and all others;(Modern-MASTERs) ; w e r e ;proffessors i n the art-History;-H i g h -SCHOOL..(Lycee)p e r i O D.
.. a  n  d ; t h e " U N İ v e r C i T y " ; o  f ; "  t h e-a r t "  ;
... hasn't BEEN; eXprienced; Y  E  T .(in the World..)
(and Univercity o f art; i s not;  " THAT-C i t y ; o f
t h e; " CONTEMPORARy-THiNGs; " ,,
takes-Place-AROUND; every-passing-DAY..
(but; creative-art has to be made; in Linear-PLANEs; as is ,Humanity-happens in L i v e ; DOings..)

..."  if U N i  V E R city " (&Universality)  ;
  ; then; all these; " contemporary-art-technics " ;
...shoul b e; carried; i n to; " P A i N T 'ing  M E D i U M  " ;  t h e n..
( w e all have; "one-GOD " religions..to put every-THiNG(&belief)-in-O N E )

.. a n d; perFormanece, will have to; turn to that; " one-MAN-action "
instead; of;  "  combined-MAKings-With-MANY-;contemporary-art-DONEs " ..

( that i s a DEAD- e n d;  ;to that; " contemporary..a g e " ..too.
 -of the art-History-..too..)
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S  O; "  I am A fool o n the H i L L " (as-in One Beatles-song) ..
..and I 've b e e n; there; 4 40 years..n o w.
( I had a good; t i m e,w a i t ing; with that;
 " fooling "  e v e n; my-self;  ,,any WAY..)
..and a " NOWHERE-MAN "; hiding; i n the "; MOMENT..
(and, in ACtings-&DOings ofART&sports)..t h o u g h.

S O; EDEN; ,I wouldn't approve- ;any ACTs;of art-Works;
 in  " former-art-History;-BASE "..
  (I do not have that; LuXa r y..  -at the Moment- )
 b u  t, I am; OPEN; t o , " any; offers  "; i  n ; "  N E W;  H O R i Z O N  s   " ..
w h e r e; w  e , all, can b e ; " s e c u l a r " ; F R O M;
e  v e  n;  ;  o u r ; "art-History-PERSONalities " ;..(inARThistory-education)

 t  h  e   n ;  " a r t -ITSELF " ; c a n  B  E; secular; from US; t h e r e,
a   n  d  ; w e; will  b  e ;  the; " CARRier-TALENTs " ;
 t o  SERVE;  a r t; to ; t h e,
" H u m a n ; " ; with-%100; ;Pure- H u m a n i t i e s..;
from the; " nature o f t h e; sheer- "(HUMANitive) ;
 ; already; g i v e n; 2 (every-ONE) o  f;   ;U  S..

I G u e s s ..



  • Murat Oktay Danış
    .. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
    E d e n,
    ..the fresh a i r; and the " stark-s i l a n c e " ; of that; AU; continent; " OPENs" U'r M i n d; it seems; and there are; s o m e; sheer-EMPTy-spaces;STiLL-l e f t; (in the World w e L i v e ,in) ,i n U'r m i n d ;, so U c a n; R E A D, my, " Long lasting-posts " ..



    I alSO; t h i n k; Too, ; t h a t; ı have some " unic " experiments; t o " s h a r e " ..
    ...t i m e; i s passing; and; my " B o n e s " will b e ; found;
    with my a r t-eXperiments; ; w h e n ; some should c o m e ;
    ..t o ; C L E A N; " t h e; P L A C E " ..


    ..S O; I ve b e e n; on internet-SPACE;(My last 2-3 Years;every-day..) to; say; &write; WHAT; I have M E A N T;(whenLiving-as-SO)
    ( and also; I DO e X p l o r e; the; " genuine-PROCEss " ;when Telling; i t )
    (..because; I ONLy; LEARNED; H o w to;DO;
    ..and " MAKE; i t " ; only.. when floWing in the proCess..)
    w h e n ; DOing; and; eXperimenting; " t h e s e ; a l l " ..
    __________________________________________________
    I LOOKed at U'r FaceBook-art-Works..I am satified; with U'r " artistic-talent. ".(and that is the main THiNG; -I guess-..U'r drawings can go d e e p..-Paintings DO; not tell every thing; every time-..and, I Think; " U " ; can paint; i n many; WAYs..
    ; I would; w a n t; U to " eXperi e n c e ; that; " P a i n t " ing; ;i n my; W A Y;
    ; -and as far as; " drawings; are deep-; U could, P A i N T; in that, W A Y; ; t o o;
    I can; consider.. t h a t..) ..
    ________________________________________
    I THiNK; I have produced; a " u n i c " ; art-DOing; PlatForm;(and Medium) (that is a High-a-CLAim;I know)
    ..and; e v e r y-BORED;(or nearly-Bored) a r t i s t; should;
    ... eXperience; " a N E W; L i f e " ; (in their arting-EFFORT)
    and a n e w ; M e d i a;(PLATFORM) , to their;
    ..MATURE-ART-MAKing-Capacity; a n d ;
    .. " genuine-art-Making-&DOing-PERFORMance s" ..

    (aren't there; many-ARtists, that;
    " they Think-; that,, these art-MAKiNG-PLATfORMs;
    a r e ; to much, shallow; and DULL; t o their; perFormative-ACTiveness " ..
    ....2 these- ALREADy-reached; e s t a b l i s h e d ; " MATURE-ART-MAKing-performances "..)
    (isITfairMATUREartistsPAiNT; L i k e their-students; ,STiLL..)

    ( because " they " can not give that chance; (and f r e e &AdvancedMEDiUMs)
    to " the-MATURE-ARTists " ,
    t h e y; locate; s o m e ; " n e w -MAKERs-of contemporary-ARCHitecture "..
    " T O T H E M i c -Lagends;i nFront; o f ; U S .. "
  • Murat Oktay Danış
    .. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
    to continuee..(part 2 )

    ..o f course; " my PLATForms " 4art-MAKing-&DOing; ; are; not for; Educating-Graunds....(in art-history-Directories)..
    b u t ,I T h i n k; ; " e v e r y; MATURE-ARTist; , d e s e r v e s;
    " ADVANCE " ; M e d i u m s;
    ,, m u c h ; m o r e than; t h e s e ; o f ;
    " art-History-BASED " ; conventional-O n e s.

    (Let m e; be a " smartass ";and say; Picasso;and all others;(Modern-MASTERs) ; w e r e ;proffessors i n the art-History;-H i g h -SCHOOL..(Lycee)p e r i O D.
    .. a n d ; t h e " U N İ v e r C i T y " ; o f ; " t h e-a r t " ;
    ... hasn't BEEN; eXprienced; Y E T .(in the World..)
    (and Univercity o f art; i s not; " THAT-C i t y ; o f
    t h e; " CONTEMPORARy-THiNGs; " ,,
    takes-Place-AROUND; every-passing-DAY..
    (but; creative-art has to be made; in Linear-PLANEs; as is ,Humanity-happens in L i v e ; DOings..)

    ..." if U N i V E R city " (&Universality) ;
    ; then; all these; " contemporary-art-technics " ;
    ...shoul b e; carried; i n to; " P A i N T 'ing M E D i U M " ; t h e n..
    ( w e all have; "one-GOD " religions..to put every-THiNG(&belief)-in-O N E )

    .. a n d; perFormanece, will have to; turn to that; " one-MAN-action "
    instead; of; " combined-MAKings-With-MANY-;contemporary-art-DONEs " ..

    ( that i s a DEAD- e n d; ;to that; " contemporary..a g e " ..too.
    -of the art-History-..too..)
    ________________________
    S O; " I am A fool o n the H i L L " (as-in One Beatles-song) ..
    ..and I 've b e e n; there; 4 40 years..n o w.
    ( I had a good; t i m e,w a i t ing; with that;
    " fooling " e v e n; my-self; ,,any WAY..)
    ..and a " NOWHERE-MAN "; hiding; i n the "; MOMENT..
    (and, in ACtings-&DOings ofART&sports)..t h o u g h.

    S O; EDEN; ,I wouldn't approve- ;any ACTs;of art-Works;
    in " former-art-History;-BASE "..
    (I do not have that; LuXa r y.. -at the Moment- )
    b u t, I am; OPEN; t o , " any; offers "; i n ; " N E W; H O R i Z O N s " ..
    w h e r e; w e , all, can b e ; " s e c u l a r " ; F R O M;
    e v e n; ; o u r ; "art-History-PERSONalities " ;..(inARThistory-education)

    t h e n ; " a r t -ITSELF " ; c a n B E; secular; from US; t h e r e,
    a n d ; w e; will b e ; the; " CARRier-TALENTs " ;
    t o SERVE; a r t; to ; t h e,
    " H u m a n ; " ; with-%100; ;Pure- H u m a n i t i e s..;
    from the; " nature o f t h e; sheer- "(HUMANitive) ;
    ; already; g i v e n; 2 (every-ONE) o f; ;U S..

    I G u e s s .. 

Eden Scott
Eden Scott
Artist and Art Lover
Thanks Murat...your comments about my drawings are quite surprising! You have a good 'eye' and also have selected a few deeper observations re. my paintings.


Bear in mind it is a million times more difficult to 'read' all the magical nuances that surface when a painting is 'viewed' in person.
Like Richard Bruland's very good and well planned...
"contemporary" panels, a few days ago now. We could see that they were strong works but a lot of the 'treasures' were lost on and via the electronic media.

Alas! today some Art Awards are selected and even given without seeing the works in person! A great tragedy indeed.
I have 'Judged' a few major Awards in Art and found it imperative to see the paintings/drawings etc in person.Anything else is just that ...something else.

Anyway, Murat thanks again for a nice observation and some deeper comments. You have a lot to say and I find it mostly a pleasure to read your comments...as I said before,

"..Once you learn Murat's language the posts themselves become works of Art."

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T i t u s re:
" I would love to have a conversation with you, Murat... but you make it too difficult.
You'd have to pay me a lot, to make it worth for me to waste my time... " ..

Dear, Titus . w e;all; DO, not have , m u c h; T i m e, L e f t..(people) ..
..s  o, T i m e; has to b e; U S E d;  "professionally " , t o o.
..and there are 2 ways; o f using; T i m e..(professionally)
O N E; is t o; L i v e;  T i m e;  a s ; unbeatable; " T i m e less " ; " Greek-G o d   s " ..
( and in Humanitive art-that kind of endless-Time; h a s to; HAPPEN, though, that is;  art-shouln't b e under controll o f even; " concious "..when DOing-f r e ely..)


..second.. " b e REAListic " .." m a k e, r e a l;  THi n g s " .. (4theREAL-WORLd)
..t h a t is; ( in My;opinion; POSTER-PLOTTER-Prints to the "  W h o L E-WALL s " ; are the most-Realistic;
thing to DO; ; i n that; period; o f public-time i n g..(where I stand-Now)
 v e r y; high-Quality; Digitally-mastered-Prints;  ; o n B i g  "  s i Z e s.."
h  a  s  to b  e; offered; to; THAT; " MODERN-ARCHitectural-BUiLDing-inner-or-OUTDOOR- s p a c e s..as  " REALizators; o f the-T i M E-ratioanaLism s " ..

.......as they have to appear-AS; BUiLDİngs-BASiC-PARTs..(as RATiONAL-S i D E s ..of these; -BUiLDings..added to thT; , arhitectural-means)
(that is an introduction; to; " r e a l itY-world;  "; o n my side,  ; i n that moment.. )


...I wouldn't make any-THiNG;  ," difficult  " ; i f w e ;  W E R E;
t a l K i n g;  ;ON;  " real " things; t o ; " MAKE-N O W "; -
 " plaT F o r m s; o N L y  ".

W h e n; come to THAT; " PAY U A LOT " ..i s s u e .
Federal-RESERVE; U.S.A. National-BANK; prinTs; 75 Billion-Dolars, every-month
(as far as I know )
and that; MONEY; can not b e; USED; i n World's Economy..
(instead; ,they are being PARKED; i n BANK-SAFEs;o  n l y ..  )
( LAZYness; o f the; REAL-S i d e..i n CapiTaLism.. )
t  h  a t , m e a n s; capitalist(&Global) economy;
n e e d s ; these; ; " JOB-Ideas " ;
to b e ; " M A D E "; (& active)
 i n REAL; ECONOMic-efforts..

 that; i  s ;  ; "  U'r share  " ; w i l l;  BE; g i v e n;
  by;the  " MASTER-of the-Capitals " ; and;(authomatically)
i  f  U are; asking; i f; I am; convinced; o n; "   that-s h a r e "  ; ;
YES; I am.. and I will; STAND; n e a r;
"  W H O; WAS; first; to, " STAND NEAR; m e ;.. "   )
..N O; D o u b T; with ; THAT..(Principle-of;  Honor&Loyalty)..

(I  am; not  a ; "greedy " ..to b e; " Jaleous "   who; will;
" MAKE "; money; More; than; m e..)
..and in fact; Capital; i s LOOKing 4 pioneers; who; will
o n l y; a c t ; i n; " capitalist- Movement  " ..
(where sahres; are authomatically; calculated;
 in that capitalist;-Economy-Machine ..alreadily; -Working..)

i n U.S.A. F i l m s; i n the;  e n d ; we; see;
about; ,1000 names; that w e r e ; included..i n Film.

..and "  A big Production " ; ; i s ; big; ; with;
all t h e s e ; ;  "  included;  empoyees  " ..

..S O; the PROBLEM; i s; can WE; PLAN; a
" big-PRODUCTiON  ";
and;   " H O W big A Production; i t may;  B  E " ..
 .. can w e ; MAKE; r e a l istic; a s s u m p tiON s..

.. that; h  a s   to  B E, discussed; " c l e a r L y " ; first..
..WHAT CAN; b e; carried; to that;
REALity; "  A R E A    s " ..
..o  f  t h e; " P U B L i C s " ;
(and will b e; REAL; t h e r e)

..and; WHO; are to; BE;  "  included; ON the W A Y  "  ..
..has to; " b e; PLANED " ..

I gue s s.
..

ON the;  " REALity-DoCK y a r d s  " .



..



Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
T i t u s re:
" I would love to have a conversation with you, Murat... but you make it too difficult.
You'd have to pay me a lot, to make it worth for me to waste my time... " ..

Dear, Titus . w e;all; DO, not have , m u c h; T i m e, L e f t..(people) ..
..s o, T i m e; has to b e; U S E d; "professionally " , t o o.
..and there are 2 ways; o f using; T i m e..(professionally)
O N E; is t o; L i v e; T i m e; a s ; unbeatable; " T i m e less " ; " Greek-G o d s " ..
( and in Humanitive art-that kind of endless-Time; h a s to; HAPPEN, though, that is; art-shouln't b e under controll o f even; " concious "..when DOing-f r e ely..)


..second.. " b e REAListic " .." m a k e, r e a l; THi n g s " .. (4theREAL-WORLd)
..t h a t is; ( in My;opinion; POSTER-PLOTTER-Prints to the " W h o L E-WALL s " ; are the most-Realistic;
thing to DO; ; i n that; period; o f public-time i n g..(where I stand-Now)
v e r y; high-Quality; Digitally-mastered-Prints; ; o n B i g " s i Z e s.."
h a s to b e; offered; to; THAT; " MODERN-ARCHitectural-BUiLDing-inner-or-OUTDOOR- s p a c e s..as " REALizators; o f the-T i M E-ratioanaLism s " ..

.......as they have to appear-AS; BUiLDİngs-BASiC-PARTs..(as RATiONAL-S i D E s ..of these; -BUiLDings..added to thT; , arhitectural-means)
(that is an introduction; to; " r e a l itY-world; "; o n my side, ; i n that moment.. )


...I wouldn't make any-THiNG; ," difficult " ; i f w e ; W E R E;
t a l K i n g; ;ON; " real " things; t o ; " MAKE-N O W "; -
" plaT F o r m s; o N L y ".

W h e n; come to THAT; " PAY U A LOT " ..i s s u e .
Federal-RESERVE; U.S.A. National-BANK; prinTs; 75 Billion-Dolars, every-month
(as far as I know )
and that; MONEY; can not b e; USED; i n World's Economy..
(instead; ,they are being PARKED; i n BANK-SAFEs;o n l y .. )
( LAZYness; o f the; REAL-S i d e..i n CapiTaLism.. )
t h a t , m e a n s; capitalist(&Global) economy;
n e e d s ; these; ; " JOB-Ideas " ;
to b e ; " M A D E "; (& active)
i n REAL; ECONOMic-efforts..

that; i s ; ; " U'r share " ; w i l l; BE; g i v e n;
by;the " MASTER-of the-Capitals " ; and;(authomatically)
i f U are; asking; i f; I am; convinced; o n; " that-s h a r e " ; ;
YES; I am.. and I will; STAND; n e a r;
" W H O; WAS; first; to, " STAND NEAR; m e ;.. " )
..N O; D o u b T; with ; THAT..(Principle-of; Honor&Loyalty)..

(I am; not a ; "greedy " ..to b e; " Jaleous " who; will;
" MAKE "; money; More; than; m e..)
..and in fact; Capital; i s LOOKing 4 pioneers; who; will
o n l y; a c t ; i n; " capitalist- Movement " ..
(where sahres; are authomatically; calculated;
in that capitalist;-Economy-Machine ..alreadily; -Working..)

i n U.S.A. F i l m s; i n the; e n d ; we; see;
about; ,1000 names; that w e r e ; included..i n Film.

..and " A big Production " ; ; i s ; big; ; with;
all t h e s e ; ; " included; empoyees " ..

..S O; the PROBLEM; i s; can WE; PLAN; a
" big-PRODUCTiON ";
and; " H O W big A Production; i t may; B E " ..
.. can w e ; MAKE; r e a l istic; a s s u m p tiON s..

.. that; h a s to B E, discussed; " c l e a r L y " ; first..
..WHAT CAN; b e; carried; to that;
REALity; " A R E A s " ..
..o f t h e; " P U B L i C s " ;
(and will b e; REAL; t h e r e)

..and; WHO; are to; BE; " included; ON the W A Y " ..
..has to; " b e; PLANED " ..

I gue s s.
..

ON the; " REALity-Do (g)CK y a r d s " .









..Y e t ; an other; e a s y; Talking, ; o n; t h e " schizophrenia " ..
( w e need; papers-for that; t  o o )
(barrowed; from; the P s y chi a t r y-Office )

..at Least, U n e e d; to know; ; the " Schizoprenia T h e o r y " ; on 2 schools..
m  y, choiese is ;  to L i s t e n; the, " socialist " Slant.

.. i  t says; i f U can; not MAKE; a r t;(although U have fall into; art-making; situations)  ..and manage to give U'r inner-Voice; and " acts ";
.....to the " SUBSTANCE " ; o f the ;  a  r  t  s;  then these will; " carve ", U;
w h e r e;  ; t h e r e; occures; " hysteria " ; the main supplier; to that; multi-range
" schizophrenia  "..phomenon..

..T h e r e; is; a  w i d e-range; Anonimous; " social-schizophrenia-Hidden " ; l i v i n g; i n 
the " s o c i e t y; (many can not eXpress, their artistic-feelings; into art -mediums..)
and some say;  "  who n e e d s; to  talk that; " schizophrenia " i s s u e ; 
i s in that " schizophrenia s t a t e " ,(Hidden,and under-cover..)
i  n  (it's) , S o c i a l;  l i f e..
.. and  p o u r ;  it;  to t h e ; L i k e-ONEs; to satisfy;
" I am not; a schizophrenic " ;  (a t  L  e  a  s  t) ..

..o  f  course; there are; many; who could not sucseeded; i n; 
their; art-decipline; ( and could not change the art-decipline too..and t h e y ; FOECED; along a L o n g;  t i m e..and that FORCE; makes; that; " schizophrrenia " ..)

... b  u  t ; O N;  m y;  s i d e; 
" I am A SUPER TRAMP " ; e v e n on arts; and I never;
HAD to; FORCE;  M E; o n any; a r t s; to be succesfull; (or get Money; from ART)
( o r in my; L i f e ; 4 any-thing ;though.. )

...I am a TRUE-Floater; even; in L i f e; and;
 " t h a t ; THiNG; called; " D i f f i c Ul t; as;   ,art " ;
I  Float; m y; " BOAT " ; o n; these; slippery-WATERs ..

LADy; I was; under protection; by; a Brilliant; PsyChiatr; for 8 years; 
and I was; taught; " psyChiatry " ; to USE; all these; " sicness-called "
abilities;(but-Talents o f the ; the;  BRAiN ). 
..and to gain; " immunity "; to these;  " rough copies "..(FOTO-copies)

.. v e r y; c h e ap; and l a z y, fabrications;..
i  f  U are not L az  y; ; then; write; a  LONG-TEXt; by U'r Hand..
I would; not accept; the " papers " ; from; internet; this; T i m e.

..Y e s ; I am; a; perFormer; a hard-WORKER; and a LABORER; and; these
to much work; shall recall ; U; " schizophrenia " ..
( of course;U can not; work that; h a r d; can U " .
.. b  u t, I offer, U; to ; " write " ; a  l o n g-WRiTing .. h  e  r  e ..
S O; I can; L i s t e n;  "and h e a r " ; U'r " inner- s o u n d;& that V o i c e, o f; the
" SchizophreniA S a t a n " ; in U'r ; l e t t e r s, smiling; to m e..
I Think; MY; " RATiO " could; give  a " smile " ; to U.
I h a v e ; to GO', n o  w.



Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
..Y e t ; an other; e a s y; Talking, ; o n; t h e " schizophrenia " ..
( w e need; papers-for that; t o o )
(barrowed; from; the P s y chi a t r y-Office )

..at Least, U n e e d; to know; ; the " Schizoprenia T h e o r y " ; on 2 schools..
m y, choiese is ; to L i s t e n; the, " socialist " Slant.

.. i t says; i f U can; not MAKE; a r t;(although U have fall into; art-making; situations) ..and manage to give U'r inner-Voice; and " acts ";
.....to the " SUBSTANCE " ; o f the ; a r t s; then these will; " carve ", U;
w h e r e; ; t h e r e; occures; " hysteria " ; the main supplier; to that; multi-range
" schizophrenia "..phomenon..

..T h e r e; is; a w i d e-range; Anonimous; " social-schizophrenia-Hidden " ; l i v i n g; i n
the " s o c i e t y; (many can not eXpress, their artistic-feelings; into art -mediums..)
and some say; " who n e e d s; to talk that; " schizophrenia " i s s u e ;
i s in that " schizophrenia s t a t e " ,(Hidden,and under-cover..)
i n (it's) , S o c i a l; l i f e..
.. and p o u r ; it; to t h e ; L i k e-ONEs; to satisfy;
" I am not; a schizophrenic " ; (a t L e a s t) ..

..o f course; there are; many; who could not sucseeded; i n;
their; art-decipline; ( and could not change the art-decipline too..and t h e y ; FOECED; along a L o n g; t i m e..and that FORCE; makes; that; " schizophrrenia " ..)

... b u t ; O N; m y; s i d e;
" I am A SUPER TRAMP " ; e v e n on arts; and I never;
HAD to; FORCE; M E; o n any; a r t s; to be succesfull; (or get Money; from ART)
( o r in my; L i f e ; 4 any-thing ;though.. )

...I am a TRUE-Floater; even; in L i f e; and;
" t h a t ; THiNG; called; " D i f f i c Ul t; as; ,art " ;
I Float; m y; " BOAT " ; o n; these; slippery-WATERs ..

LADy; I was; under protection; by; a Brilliant; PsyChiatr; for 8 years;
and I was; taught; " psyChiatry " ; to USE; all these; " sicness-called "
abilities;(but-Talents o f the ; the; BRAiN ).
..and to gain; " immunity "; to these; " rough copies "..(FOTO-copies)

.. v e r y; c h e ap; and l a z y, fabrications;..
i f U are not L az y; ; then; write; a LONG-TEXt; by U'r Hand..
I would; not accept; the " papers " ; from; internet; this; T i m e.

..Y e s ; I am; a; perFormer; a hard-WORKER; and a LABORER; and; these
to much work; shall recall ; U; " schizophrenia " ..
( of course;U can not; work that; h a r d; can U " .
.. b u t, I offer, U; to ; " write " ; a l o n g-WRiTing .. h e r e ..
S O; I can; L i s t e n; "and h e a r " ; U'r " inner- s o u n d;& that V o i c e, o f; the
" SchizophreniA S a t a n " ; in U'r ; l e t t e r s, smiling; to m e..
I Think; MY; " RATiO " could; give a " smile " ; to U.
I h a v e ; to GO', n o w.
I am " i n HURr y "..
m y " virtuoso " ; Violinist; frend is waiting;
for our; Saturday-Night; WALK..(for 6 hours) ..













r e: " i understand that I have hit a nerve so to speak."

Y e s this is a true; observation. My 30-year close; friend; (a cellist ) could d a r  e; to TALK-around; that; ; " I was a schizophrene " ; (in that Synphonic orcestra); I was going 3 days a week; for 30 years;.. and there was a distance still; w i t h ; every; O N E ..there ..(he said; "  they d i d not KNOW; m e; in 30 years  ".. what; I WAS.)

..( AS; I give-up; "  to b e a slave; to his " ; " social-schizophreny ";( that he has put; in a BOX; and NAMED; i  t; as   ; " d e v i n e- M A R X i s M.. " ..
I cut, to go to that; orcestra; then ; ..
( although I had many-close-friends; there;
they had to wait; 4 that; KiCKER-o n ME; 
should TAKE; 
" what; HE; thinks " ; HE; g a v e ;
 t  o ;   M   E  ;&OWNed;.. in years ) ..

..so my violinist friend; i s with ME; instead o f that; 
"  w h o l e ; orcestra  " ..
(it was enough, though.with that; oerchestra.. )
 ( SO; I can write, i n orchestral-partisions, t h o G h. too. )

r e:  "   to be understood within the context of that conversation " ..

; U can not c r e a t e; while U  "  stay in the conteX o f the conversation " .
( e x c u s e; me, " 2 create "  is m o r e  important than; 
..any-coverstation; itself..
f i r s t; " c r e a t e " ; then;
 " conversation "; shall; fallow..
( or find it's w a y; of it's OWN) ..
.." creators; can not begin with, " conversation " ..f i r s t... " 
..U create then; " U " ; give  a NAME; to i t;
( so that; i t can b egin to b e; in conversation..)
U DO; not say;   " I will; give U a NAME;o f a Painting  " ;
t  h  e  n ;  Paint; that; painting; 4 m e.

r e :  " When you set yourself apart, you find yourself apart or in your case --in parts--- fragmented " . 

Modern; l i f e; DOES; that; to all of; u  s..
U can not bear, to b e; " fragmented; b y " someone; (especially);
 because; U are fragmented;(covered)  i n  U'r actual-L i f e; 
&U can not open credit; 
 t  o ; a n e w; " fragmenter " ; 
4;(even), art's s a k e... (ıtself)

re : "  Disconnection occurs when we are oblivious to the humanity we are a part of --and that oblivion is a disrespect.."

I am not oblivious; or " disrespect " ; to; U Deb.
I am; givin g; m y; L a b o r;  , my t i m e; to U   N  O  W;... 
(and to m e; too..that i s important; ;
 i f U do not give L a b o r; to U'r SELF; 
then; U can not give any-thing; to any-one;
 although; U b e; v e r y; social; 
and  e v e n ;  ; h e l p full;  t o ; people..)

.. b  u t  ; U are; " oblivious " 2me. ; to e v e n; write; m y,  NAME-o n c e .
( U should say; U were;d e v i n e; W h e n;  being ..
..v e r y-helpfull to the " general-s o c i a l-comunity " 
.when talking to a  
 " socialy-name l e s s. "
.. b u t STANDs; and Flows;..  " i n sheer-HUMANity " .. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jWrEzMHWzE&list=HL1393148487&feature=mh_lolz
..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiZPd2GU4I
..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3In7JgxmA




Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
r e: " i understand that I have hit a nerve so to speak."

Y e s this is a true; observation. My 30-year close; friend; (a cellist ) could d a r e; to TALK-around; that; ; " I was a schizophrene " ; (in that Synphonic orcestra); I was going 3 days a week; for 30 years;.. and there was a distance still; w i t h ; every; O N E ..there ..(he said; " they d i d not KNOW; m e; in 30 years ".. what; I WAS.)

..( AS; I give-up; " to b e a slave; to his " ; " social-schizophreny ";( that he has put; in a BOX; and NAMED; i t; as ; " d e v i n e- M A R X i s M.. " ..
I cut, to go to that; orchestra; then ; ..
( although I had many-close-friends; there;
they had to wait; 4 that; KiCKER-o n ME;
should TAKE; t H a t,
" what; HE; thinks " ; HE; g a v e ;
t o ; M E ;&OWNed;.. in years ) ..

..so my violinist friend; i s with ME; instead o f that;
" w h o l e ; orcestra " ..
(it was enough, though.with that; oerchestra.. )
( SO; I can write, i n orchestral-partisions, t h o uG h. too. )

r e: " to be understood within the context of that conversation " ..

; U can not c r e a t e; while U " stay in the conteX o f the conversation " .
( e x c u s e; me, " 2 create " is m o r e important than;
..any-coverstation; itself..
f i r s t; " c r e a t e " ; then;
" conversation "; shall; fallow..
( or find it's w a y; of it's OWN) ..
.." creators; can not begin with, " conversation " ..f i r s t... "
..U create then; " U " ; give a NAME; to i t;
( so that; i t can b egin to b e; in conversation..)
U DO; not say; " I will; give U a NAME;o f a Painting " ;
t h e n ; Paint; that; painting; 4 m e.

r e : " When you set yourself apart, you find yourself apart or in your case --in parts--- fragmented " .

Modern; l i f e; DOES; that; to all of; u s..
U can not bear, to b e; " fragmented; b y " someone; (especially);
because; U are fragmented;(covered) i n U'r actual-L i f e;
&U can not open credit;
t o ; a n e w; " fragmenter " ;
* art's s a k e... (ıtself)

re : " Disconnection occurs when we are oblivious to the humanity we are a part of --and that oblivion is a disrespect.."

I am not oblivious; or " disrespect " ; to; U Deb.
I am; givin g; m y; L a b o r; , my t i m e; to U N O W;...
(and to m e; too..that i s important; ;
i f U do not give L a b o r; to U'r SELF;
then; U can not give any-thing; to any-one;
although; U b e; v e r y; social;
and e v e n ; ; h e l p full; t o ; people..)

.. b u t ; U are; " oblivious " 2me. ; to e v e n; " write; m y, NAME-o n c e ".
( U should say; U were;d e v i n e; W h e n; being ..
..v e r y-helpfull to the " general-s o c i a l-comunity "
.when talking to a
" socialy-name l e s s. "
.. b u t STANDs; and Flows;.. " i n sheer-HUMANity " .. )

..
..




Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
" WALKing -NOW" ; " p h r a s e " ..
... , W A S; 4 U; Titus.. (not 4 ;m e)

..i n fact;ONLy- " I should; TALK ";
(as a MAiN; WRiTER; o n WHiTE-PAPER;
w i t h;" PEN " ;in my L i f e
as a Writer DOes. every day..)

(& the first PART; should Take-place;
w h e n WALKing, " on feet "
(feet a r e; considered; AS; t h e ; BASEment; to t h e; BRAiN..)
;on " TUNALI street " ..)
...........
I SHOUL TALK;

continuously; " TO-A N-ABSOLUTE-E A R " ..
...( this i s; an ABSOLUTE-Kind
.. o f a WA GiNA.; on the OTHER-Side;in fact..)
(that is a " EAR " ; every-V i r t U oso..should;HAVE..)

for; 6-HOURs ..

.. w e have to sit; at Star-BUCKs;Coffee; t h e n;
...to " write " all w e TALKED-on FEET;
; to o u r; brains;(as empty-PAPERs)
w h e r e ; " there i s NO; P E N " ; ..around..
( SO; I USE; NO;P E N; that; T i m e ..)

( and w e finally; FORGET;(and-erase)
.. WHAT; that; P E N i s. i s .. )

( ALTHOUGH; w e ,both a r e ; MALE.
& w e both; a r e; M a r r i ed..

M i r t a; are U married; too. ?

p.s.
by " THE WAY " ; T H A T ; i s "THE" " SUPER-TRAMP ";
(not " the" ; a r t i s t; todefine art), A N D;
r e: " what we choose to contribute to society. " ..
(that i s the; " SHUT-Curcuit-circle " o f " Local-Social-schizophreny " ; in Fact
that can notGO; and WALK; ,NO-where..-by-pushings- )

I w o u l d; prefer; t h i s-ONE; instead..
..at least " HE " ; i s aWare; o f; " the THiNG " and what to SAY ..
..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcX1qA1Etc8 ..

..someONE; must HaveMADE; m e anGry-I-Guess..







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.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
.Eden,
..what about Jaspar David.Friedrich.
.when I was; 12 I've made a reproduction of that; " painting "..(I still have it with m e)
" Chalk Cliffs on Rügen " ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalk_Cliffs_on_R%C3%BCgen

..http://www.backtoclassics.com/gallery/caspardavidfriedrich/chalkcliffsonrugen/





Eden, Casar David's paintings; has a " Psychologic-Frameing-&content-UPWARD&inWARD .. " ..

..when I am talking on a painting; that m e a n s; I am i n ; i t ..(or it is i n;m e)
 (and that is not a art-history-Look..to art; from m e..)

..SO; i f I am LOOKing-AT; t h a t; painting;(below); that; i s;  (that; m e a n s)..
 I  w a n t to  BE_ THERE;  ..
http://www.backtoclassics.com/gallery/caspardavidfriedrich/chalkcliffsonrugen/
..Caspar D.F. was on honey-moon; where that painting happen; and; 
..i n that; Painting; I see " HUMAN " (3Human-beings)
 in the hight of the  " Higher-GROUND " ..
..t h e y   are afraid; to Look Dawnwards..(but they,Still;DO)
(..although there are WHiTE-Chalk-Hills with sharp edges..(they can b e sharp-ice ; or jumping-Wave-tops(because) there is SAE; also gaining hight-Like  a WALL; 
to s  i e g e . e v e r y ; t h i n g..(Like a big WAve; WiLL-HUG-S O O N )

..can GRAUND(of a woman; with a deep- Cliff) ;  o r
..can; SEA-(with the creature-f i s h; -o f MAN-can suround; HUMAN; &L i f e)..)
..t h a t is a ; "  VERy-TOP  " ; a " question " ..

..is " GROUND;-of the EARTH " ;  b a s i c; or ;
 the-BLUE-WALL; (o f the Universal);(the-SEA-WALL-arising-UPWARD; to the Clifs -and it has these; WHiTE-CHALK; that can write to the BLUE-sky; t h e N )
with their; " SHARP-p e a k-P o i n t s " .

..this is a similar; Question; to that; "HAS art; LOST, it's Humanity.."
..o  r  is it posibble; that " HUMAN-UP-on-THE-earth-HiLL-S h o u l d-FALL " ; from the H i g h t ; o f these;CLiFFs..o f the;LANds..

...can U Think; SEX; (between GROUND-and-SEA) (JustLikeWOMAN-&MAN)
,in  "  VERTiCAL; -dimension  " ..( climbing up the Hills  -BY THE MEANs of a MAN--&FALLing; DAWn-the-CLiff s.(by the Means ; OF A; WOMAN  ) ..

i n Fred CHURCH; paintings; this Dimension; i s HORiZENTAL..
(Fred; i s not asking any Questions; on SEX-of-The-LiFE..(in Fact,that is a very deep; question; and Caspar David; had a Wife; 20 years; younger; then; him ;at the Moment; and JUMP; from; a very High-HiLL; or carry; a LOW-Land; up-Hills with his o w n; L i f e ) )

Fred CHURCH; offers US; to GO; " VERTiCALLy " ; ..
; in the LANDs; and discover; LANd; ; ONLy..(where LAND; expands)
.. ( b u t ; I would; prefer; " OCEANs-eXpand..in abstract slippery-waters; in the paint..)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frederic_Edwin_Church,_The_Andes_of_Ecuador,_c._1855,_HAA.jpg
.. t h e r e; i s a HUGE; HOLE; (in Front) ; (how he Locates-SEX-on Lands)
and; that; i s ; all; i n (Lands-eXpand-adventure..)

instead o f; t h e  "  SEX; i n Vertical;LAND- a x i s  " ; 
( where L i F E ; "in the o c e a n s ";should; eXamine;SEX; 
as  to CLiMB; UPWARD(o r to the EARTH) ..

.. s  e  X; happens; i n OCEANs(whereLife Begun) ;
..and " F i s h " ; has to; CLiMB; t o the Tree;
, i f OCEAN; SHOULD; CLimb..UPWARDs-too)
 ; as " leaves "(leaf s)(in the MİDDLE of the painting;)
H A S CLiMBED; ; u p; to the TREE;
(   near; that; Lonely-MAN-STANDingALONE)   (Caspar;I guess)

...in the middle; womans-brother; lay dawn not to b e; pushed; Dawn ..(by Caspar)
( that i s Caspar; WHO; t e n d s; to " JUMP DAWN "; from the CLiffs
as his; WOMAN;( as a WOMAN-SHE has i s " the OCEAN " ; that; will Climb; o n ; h i m  simultaneously..I guess)..


..there i s a slightly-big differance; in between; Caspar; & F r e d.
o n;  "  WHAT;  SEX;  i  s  " .
I would GO; to Cinema; to s  e e; WHAT; happens o n; the Earth;
and H i g h ; -LANDS..( instead of looking at  a Fred-Painting)
but I should; try to WATCH; t h e CLiMB; of the " fish " ; UP to the H i L L; 
..and HOW..
(that is HOW; L i f e; and Human; should; CLiMB; o n the LANDs.  ).

.. b  u t " n o t i o n " h e r e ;  i   s; 
  1- is Humanity; coming from;    "  t h e ; DEEPTHs; o f the OCEANs  " ;
; (&climbing-UPWARDs-t h e n )
 .. (SO; today, evolution is happening; Life from Oceans-CLiMb-LANs-ONLy; happens)  ?

  2-;  i s HUMANity; " STiLL " ; c o m  i n g; from t h e ; SKies (as CHURCh-claims-stiLL)..
and i t creation; still;coming from the SKies; and;  i s being washed; from the Mountains to the ; OCEANs..b e l o w; S T i LL..N O W; too.. )

...I Think; CASPAR; says; the TRUTH..(he is the ONE; WHO has that;
; True-iNSTiNCTs on creation o f-L i f e )
..that is I too, belive; L i f e ; has CAME; to EARTH;  " O N C E " 
 and SO; has b e e n;
" CREATED " ; O N C E;  S O;  NOW; G  o  d;  i s  NOT; with US; STiLL-Creating-Life ..
CASPAR :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_023.jpg

FRED :
http://www.wallcoo.net/paint/fine-art-paintings/html/wallpaper15.html
http://www.fredericedwinchurch.org/Niagara-Falls,-1867.html

SO; where i s " c r e a t i o n " ;  THEN..

..(b   u  t) ; WE can; i m i t a t e ; the "God-still-left-in-Biological-Things ";
 and,  c a r r y; i t;  UP; the; HiLLs; (and convert; i t to,
contemporary-a r t -Things-ACTUAL-THiNGs..though,too)

..o  f   course;  ; i t  i s ;  A; 
" V E R Y;  U   N   i  C;  F  i  E  L  d ";
t   o,  D i s c o v  e  r; ( c r e a t i o n Process )
" the U N i C ";  " CREATing " ; Process, i n ;
that " Scientific-aesthetics-based-art " ..(NOT Religious)
..and I am with; "   WHAT; Christine o f f e r s " .... ;

.. " e X p a n s i o n;of Nature; ; has to b e; MADE; b y abstraction; f i r s t..
 ..(and so; art can gain; Volume; &T r u e-S p a c e; 4 the aestheTics; -as a sCience-on BEAUTy- can b e installed; a s
.."  the essential-&Fundamental-SCiENCE-BASE ; i n the  ART " .... )

..and ART; h a s to BE; EXamined; (and EXPLORED); i n an  OTHER-Orbit. ..i n Future.
..and; I Think; 
 I have been DOing-This;( eXperimenting) ; 4; 40 years; N O W..



  • Murat Oktay Danış
    .. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
    Eden, Casar David's paintings; has a " Psychologic-Frameing-&content-UPWARD&inWARD .. " ..

    ..when I am talking on a painting; that m e a n s; I am i n ; i t ..(or it is i n;m e)
    (and that is not a art-history-Look..to art; from m e..)

    ..SO; i f I am LOOKing-AT; t h a t; painting;(below); that; i s; (that; m e a n s)..
    I w a n t to BE_ THERE; ..
    http://www.backtoclassics.com/gallery/caspardavidfriedrich/chalkcliffsonrugen/
    ..Caspar D.F. was on honey-moon; where that painting happen; and;
    ..i n that; Painting; I see " HUMAN " (3Human-beings)
    in the hight of the " Higher-GROUND " ..
    ..t h e y are afraid; to Look Dawnwards..(but they,Still;DO)
    (..although there are WHiTE-Chalk-Hills with sharp edges..(they can b e sharp-ice ; or jumping-Wave-tops(because) there is SAE; also gaining hight-Like a WALL;
    to s i e g e . e v e r y ; t h i n g..(Like a big WAve; WiLL-HUG-S O O N )

    ..can GRAUND(of a woman; with a deep- Cliff) ; o r
    ..can; SEA-(with the creature-f i s h; -o f MAN-can suround; HUMAN; &L i f e)..)
    ..t h a t is a ; " VERy-TOP " ; a " question " ..

    ..is " GROUND;-of the EARTH " ; b a s i c; or ;
    the-BLUE-WALL; (o f the Universal);(the-SEA-WALL-arising-UPWARD; to the Clifs -and it has these; WHiTE-CHALK; that can write to the BLUE-sky; t h e N )
    with their; " SHARP-p e a k-P o i n t s " .

    ..this is a similar; Question; to that; "HAS art; LOST, it's Humanity.."
    ..o r is it posibble; that " HUMAN-UP-on-THE-earth-HiLL-S h o u l d-FALL " ; from the H i g h t ; o f these;CLiFFs..o f the;LANds..

    ...can U Think; SEX; (between GROUND-and-SEA) (JustLikeWOMAN-&MAN)
    ,in " VERTiCAL; -dimension " ..( climbing up the Hills -BY THE MEANs of a MAN--&FALLing; DAWn-the-CLiff s.(by the Means ; OF A; WOMAN ) ..

    i n Fred CHURCH; paintings; this Dimension; i s HORiZENTAL..
    (Fred; i s not asking any Questions; on SEX-of-The-LiFE..(in Fact,that is a very deep; question; and Caspar David; had a Wife; 20 years; younger; then; him ;at the Moment; and JUMP; from; a very High-HiLL; or carry; a LOW-Land; up-Hills with his o w n; L i f e ) )

    Fred CHURCH; offers US; to GO; " VERTiCALLy " ; ..
    ; in the LANDs; and discover; LANd; ; ONLy..(where LAND; expands)
    .. ( b u t ; I would; prefer; " OCEANs-eXpand..in abstract slippery-waters; in the paint..)
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frederic_Edwin_Church,_The_Andes_of_Ecuador,_c._1855,_HAA.jpg
    .. t h e r e; i s a HUGE; HOLE; (in Front) ; (how he Locates-SEX-on Lands)
    and; that; i s ; all; i n (Lands-eXpand-adventure..)

    instead o f; t h e " SEX; i n Vertical;LAND- a x i s " ;
    ( where L i F E ; "in the o c e a n s ";should; eXamine;SEX;
    as to CLiMB; UPWARD(o r to the EARTH) ..

    .. s e X; happens; i n OCEANs(whereLife Begun) ;
    ..and " F i s h " ; has to; CLiMB; t o the Tree;
    , i f OCEAN; SHOULD; CLimb..UPWARDs-too)
    ; as " leaves "(leaf s)(in the MİDDLE of the painting;)
    H A S CLiMBED; ; u p; to the TREE;
    ( near; that; Lonely-MAN-STANDingALONE) (Caspar;I guess)

    ...in the middle; womans-brother; lay dawn not to b e; pushed; Dawn ..(by Caspar)
    ( that i s Caspar; WHO; t e n d s; to " JUMP DAWN "; from the CLiffs
    as his; WOMAN;( as a WOMAN-SHE has i s " the OCEAN " ; that; will Climb; o n ; h i m simultaneously..I guess)..


    ..there i s a slightly-big differance; in between; Caspar; & F r e d.
    o n; " WHAT; SEX; i s " .
    I would GO; to Cinema; to s e e; WHAT; happens o n; the Earth;
    and H i g h ; -LANDS..( instead of looking at a Fred-Painting)
    but I should; try to WATCH; t h e CLiMB; of the " fish " ; UP to the H i L L;
    ..and HOW..
    (that is HOW; L i f e; and Human; should; CLiMB; o n the LANDs. ).



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    .. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
    ..to continuee.. (part 2)


    .. b u t " n o t i o n " h e r e ; i s;
    * is Humanity; coming from; " t h e ; DEEPTHs; o f the OCEANs " ;

    ; (&climbing-UPWARDs-t h e n )
    .. (SO; today, evolution is happening; Life from Oceans-CLiMb-LANs-ONLy; happens) ?

    * i s HUMANity; " STiLL " ; c o m i n g; from t h e ; SKies (as CHURCh-claims-stiLL)..

    and i t creation; still;coming from the SKies; and; i s being washed; from the Mountains to the ; OCEANs..b e l o w; S T i LL..N O W; too.. )

    ...I Think; CASPAR; says; the TRUTH..(he is the ONE; WHO has that;
    ; True-iNSTiNCTs on creation o f-L i f e )
    ..that is I too, belive; L i f e ; has CAME; to EARTH; " O N C E "
    and SO; has b e e n;
    " CREATED " ; O N C E; S O; NOW; G o d; i s NOT; with US; STiLL-Creating-Life ..
    CASPAR :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_023.jpg

    FRED :
    http://www.wallcoo.net/paint/fine-art-paintings/html/wallpaper15.htmlhttp://www.fredericedwinchurch.org/Niagara-Falls,-1867.html

    SO; where i s " c r e a t i o n " ; THEN..

    ..(b u t) ; WE can; i m i t a t e ; the "God-still-left-in-Biological-Things ";
    and, c a r r y; i t; UP; the; HiLLs; (and convert; i t to,
    contemporary-a r t -Things-ACTUAL-THiNGs..though,too)

    ..o f course; ; i t i s ; A;
    " V E R Y; U N i C; F i E L d ";
    t o, D i s c o v e r; ( c r e a t i o n Process )
    " the U N i C "; " CREATing " ; Process, i n ;
    that " Scientific-aesthetics-based-art " ..(NOT Religious)
    ..and I am with; " WHAT; Christine o f f e r s " .... ;

    .. " e X p a n s i o n;of Nature; ; has to b e; MADE; b y abstraction; f i r s t..
    ..(and so; art can gain; Volume; &T r u e-S p a c e; 4 the aestheTics; -as a sCience-on BEAUTy- can b e installed; a s
    .." the essential-&Fundamental-SCiENCE-BASE ; i n the ART " .... )

    ..and ART; h a s to BE; EXamined; (and EXPLORED); i n an OTHER-Orbit. ..i n Future.
    ..and; I Think;
    I have been DOing-This;( eXperimenting) ; 4; 40 years; N O W..







I Think, " religion " ; has been " B A S E D  ";

 (&established) ON; " A R T' s "; DOMAiN..



T h e y (religious) ; shall say; that " c r e a t i o n  of GOD's " ; PATH;

 has to BE; " preserved " ; and; than; " m a i n tained " .



..b  u  t ; when saying; " GOD's Creation " ;additionally;  they claim that; 

creation has to HAVE; a n  " O W N E R " ..

( and that; i s a very BAD;  i D E A ..indeed.. )


(e v e n; ARTists; should not OWN; 
  " t h e creation; that has OCCURED; i n their-WORK " ..
T h e y can b e; b e; PROUD; o f ,THAT; 
they could; GO i n t o; the ..
" s t a g e of creation "; and could SERVE; i t  ; to; Humanity,
without any thing; m i XED; i n , i   t.
(so it is PURE-Creation; 
" o n c e again "  and it will B E;
" r e p e a t  e d " .. o n l y..     )


Art;(and artist) shall preserv;e   ; &" REpeat "; &" reN  e w" ; " t h e  c r e a t i n g " ;
and they shall; n o t;  " o  w  n " ;  t h e m. 
..-creation has been, OWNED; b y; " science " , i n fact-..
( that is a revolution;against; the religious..)

(when Picasso; writes; his NAME; under the painting
D o e s ; that, M e a n; it is,  his property ..)
( a fair question for an other;Topic.)
  " i f it i s;  ;t  h  e  n  "   ; people shall buy it ; from; him;
as FAR; as; " WHAT i t; TAKEs " (how much money it coasts)..
( so these high prices; a r e ; "  to FREE " ; t h e;
" c r e a t i o n " ; i t; self;
and i t MEANs; the fredom of creation; i s;
" priceless "; b u t; even art-WORKs; 
a   r   e  ; to  B E;  P r i C E D..t  o  o .

( SO; art-society; shouldn't LET; an OBJECT; 
o r a THiNG; " s a c r e d " ; a s ; it happened; ONCE;
i n;   ; r e l i G i O N s.

S  O; religion; preserves; all rights; o f; any; " creation "; 
and    ;tries to defend;  " any -creature " ..
.. is that ; TRUE.. ?
(if God has created; them; all )

( NO..   ..OWNERs o f the creations;(the religious)
 shall;;  "  defend the rights o f HUMAN "; o n l y..
                         -SO; a r t has to; make all these; "creatings " ; o c c u r-freely-
.. and " HUMANity "; i s a MADE-UP; a Thing..
 where ,all creation shall b e ; PUT; i n ; ; ONLy..
" O N E-BOX " ..
(toFREEthat-HUMANiTY-in THE-B O X
w  e; need; these ; " iMPROVisationsAT-ONCE-artSTYLE "  ..

(  S  O;    W   E  ;  N E E D;  that; " abstraction-i n -ART "; 
to free-T H O S E "   "  all kind of CREATURES; and creatiO N s; ";
that has b e e n; " pressed "; i n t o; that; " HUMANity-CREATURE " .

( that is; w e have to ; E X P A N D; that; " HUMANity-creature "
( " MADE-HUMANity " )..
( that; ; " CHURC h " personeel ;  h  a  s;  ACTED; 
L i k e;  " contemporar,ian-ARTists " ;of today's. 
and they;  "  M   A   D   E  " ; a  " HUMANiTY-creature ";
with; t h e i r;  " RAT i o 2 s "   ..
(..and true;artists; of these centuries;
has tried; to " MAKE  OWNed-by-the TRUE-nature..i n art..
(TRUE-nature;is made of both MATTER; and-Life.)

..i  t   is ; NOT; e  a i s y; to t a k e; THAT;  a  r t 's F r e e dom;
from that; "  f o r m e r ; art e r s "..(the religious)

( I find; LeonarDO's paintings are; " Contemporary "; too; 
a  s  ; t h e y ,  A R E; too,  " M A D E " ; Things;
(deliberately) ..and can be transformed; to their; natural-origins )
-contrary to t h e; Religous; who HOLD; the M o n e y-



S    O; ; an artist; has to h a v e; that; " reliGiON-tradition "; 
and it's ,pure-VALUEs
i  n  H  i  m/h e r..

..and i t shouldn't B E; " EXTERNAL " ; i  n  any;  w a y s..
(that is; it never; should-GO; OUT; to WALK around;
or act on; people-&Things,
a s; religious; DO ..

S  O; IT; has to b e; k e p t ; 
(First) ; i n " SEX-channel-or-Sylinder-whereever se x; reaches;in the Body.. "
 ; (A siege; to OUR-SUBconscious.. )
..and also has to b e; k e p t; " regresed ; "into- insticts-only " ..
(second)  has to b e; UNDER; CONTROL;
 b y the BRAiN-BOX; ;(that is Psychology)
.. o  r;  "  PSY C h i ATRy-system  " ..
so occures;   a secular; and " a TRUE-iNDiViDUAL "; that can not b e; even;
" s e l f ish "; as i s; the "gravitiy "; o f the; " Capital i s m " .happens.
(the values; o f "religion " shall say us; 
who is keeping faith; i n; & who; i s
TAKing; i  t;  O U T ..


S  O;  that;  " P   a  i  n  t i n g ";  o f;  CASPAR DAViD's
http://www.backtoclassics.com/gallery/caspardavidfriedrich/chalkcliffsonrugen/ 
i  s  very essential; a painting; I think..
a  n  d; i f I  w a s; to  B E;  ;"  ARTist-secular " in my L i f e; 
; I w a s; to BE; i n 
that; p a i n t i n g (AND-PAiNT); (soIMADEaREPRODUCTiONof; this-WORK )

..( o r it has to b e; i n   M  E; (READy; and ALREADy)
in my BRAin; (asAreligion-THiNG-in-ME)
(if A religion-THiNG; is a PAiNTiNG; i n me, t h e n;
I will; PRAY;  t o ; that; " the ART-THiNG " ; 
 " instead o f GOD " ,
(to produce many-art-THiNGs)  ..

..o  r  ; i f; there; i s a " THiNG "(aPainting) i n my; Brain;
t h e n;  I w a s;  t  o ; " establish a GOD " in m e;
; that i s; NOT;" A THiNG " ; t h e n..

(that is,the pure belief in spiritual-base,eXisted..i n )

.. t h a t ;  is; sheer;andPURE-G o D; belief i n M E, t h e n;
i  t  never; Will-m a k e; any " intervention " ; t o ;
ANY-T H i n g;..(and any-HUMAN-t h e n..)
( i f it; i s; s u b l i m e-spirith-eXistance..so.)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_-_Der_Wanderer_%C3%BCber_dem_Nebelmeer.jpg#
THE-MAN; there; has to HAVE; all his; " religion-and Faith;-and believe "
i N S İ D E; h i m.. 
to; STAND; in the MiDDLE; o f all these, " eXPAND " ; o f that; UNiVERSE;
a  r  o  u  n d;  H i m ..(romantisizm can be determined, s o ..)

..by the; w a y;  ; E d e n; I thank;U; because;
 as a conquerer o f the "  EXTERNAL-OUTSiDE-LANDs " ; U pushed; M  E; 
towards;2 t h a t  ; PAiNTing; that I have; " installed "; i n  M E ..(when a Child)
(Chalk CLiffs at Rügen)
and forgot; (i t WAS; still i n ME-strongly..)..
.. (and may-be; that i S; ;  why; I am; h e r e..)

( although; I am a TRUE;A  ABSTRACTER;   n o W A d a y s.   )


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_028.jpg
T h a t; Painting; has to b e; saying;
" A B S T R A C t i o n s "; has to b e; D O N E; i n ; 2-WAYs ..
L i k e; A Tree; ; Roots-&and Branches..
                     (or man-and woman ) (mirror-image is important-so)
( b u t; roots; a r e to b e;  "  i n the; A i R  " ; too..
to see what  they-have DONE; i n  that " inthrough to the;GROUND"; domain..
(may be seX; i s ,from ground to SKY-action; a s we became;HUMAN ..)
and that can not b  e; ignored;  ; in the; "  TOTAL-Field o f art; Diameter " establishment.. )

I remember; U'r Tree-Paintings; now;  ,EDEN.

a last Thing..I undersatnd; Christine's offer; as; 
" c a n; it  b e , " Just WHAT; i s H U M A N ";
..instead;  O F; " t h e HUMANity " ..(the whole-Cocept)
.. b e c a u s e; art can; investigate; t h a t; LONELy-Thing;
h i d i n g; i n our; SOUL s; and can BE; NAMED;  a s 
" t h e BEing " ; or ExiSTANCE; " entitiy " ; "

" HUMAN  b eİNG " .. or " H U M A N " ..
..and art can MAKE; it; V i s a b l e; to every one of; U S ..

..a bit; Long..because;I have a " snuffle "; and;I can not ;go to basketball..)



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    I Think, " religion " ; has been " B A S E D ";
    (&established) ON; " A R T' s "; DOMAiN..

    T h e y (religious) ; shall say; that " c r e a t i o n of GOD's " ; PATH;
    has to BE; " preserved " ; and; than; " m a i n tained " .

    ..b u t ; when saying; " GOD's Creation " ;additionally; they claim that;
    creation has to HAVE; a n " O W N E R " ..
    ( and that; i s a very BAD; i D E A ..indeed.. )

    (e v e n; ARTists; should not OWN;
    " t h e creation; that has OCCURED; i n their-WORK " ..
    T h e y can b e; b e; PROUD; o f ,THAT;
    they could; GO i n t o; the ..
    " s t a g e of creation "; and could SERVE; i t ; to; Humanity,
    without any thing; m i XED; i n , i t.
    (so it is PURE-Creation;
    " o n c e again " and it will B E;
    " r e p e a t e d " .. o n l y.. )


    Art;(and artist) shall preserv;e ; &" REpeat "; &" reN e w" ; " t h e c r e a t i n g " ;
    and they shall; n o t; " o w n " ; t h e m.
    ..-creation has been, OWNED; b y; " science " , i n fact-..
    ( that is a revolution;against; the religious..)

    (when Picasso; writes; his NAME; under the painting
    D o e s ; that, M e a n; it is, his property ..)
    ( a fair question for an other;Topic.)
    " i f it i s; ;t h e n " ; people shall buy it ; from; him;
    as FAR; as; " WHAT i t; TAKEs " (how much money it coasts)..
    ( so these high prices; a r e ; " to FREE " ; t h e;
    " c r e a t i o n " ; i t; self;
    and i t MEANs; the fredom of creation; i s;
    " priceless "; b u t; even art-WORKs;
    a r e ; to B E; P r i C E D..t o o .

    ( SO; art-society; shouldn't LET; an OBJECT;
    o r a THiNG; " s a c r e d " ; a s ; it happened; ONCE;
    i n; ; r e l i G i O N s.

    S O; religion; preserves; all rights; o f; any; " creation ";
    and ;tries to defend; " any -creature " ..
    .. is that ; TRUE.. ?
    (if God has created; them; all )

    ( NO.. ..OWNERs o f the creations;(the religious)
    shall;; " defend the rights o f HUMAN "; o n l y..
    -SO; a r t has to; make all these; "creatings " ; o c c u r-freely-
    .. and " HUMANity "; i s a MADE-UP; a Thing..
    where ,all creation shall b e ; PUT; i n ; ; ONLy..
    " O N E-BOX " ..
    (toFREEthat-HUMANiTY-in THE-B O X
    w e; need; these ; " iMPROVisationsAT-ONCE-artSTYLE " ..

    ( S O; W E ; N E E D; that; " abstraction-i n -ART ";
    to free-T H O S E " " all kind of CREATURES; and creatiO N s; ";
    that has b e e n; " pressed "; i n t o; that; " HUMANity-CREATURE " .

    ( that is; w e have to ; E X P A N D; that; " HUMANity-creature "
    ( " MADE-HUMANity " )..
    ( that; ; " CHURC h " personeel ; h a s; ACTED;
    L i k e; " contemporar,ian-ARTists " ;of today's.
    and they; " M A D E " ; a " HUMANiTY-creature ";
    with; t h e i r; " RAT i o 2 s " ..
    (..and true;artists; of these centuries;
    has tried; to " MAKE OWNed-by-the TRUE-nature..i n art..
    (TRUE-nature;is made of both MATTER; and-Life.)

    ..i t is ; NOT; e a i s y; to t a k e; THAT; a r t 's F r e e dom;
    from that; " f o r m e r ; art e r s "..(the religious)

    ( I find; LeonarDO's paintings are; " Contemporary "; too;
    a s ; t h e y , A R E; too, " M A D E " ; Things;
    (deliberately) ..and can be transformed; to their; natural-origins )
    -contrary to t h e; Religous; who HOLD; the M o n e y-



    S O; ; an artist; has to h a v e; that; " reliGiON-tradition ";
    and it's ,pure-VALUEs
    i n H i m/h e r..

    ..and i t shouldn't B E; " EXTERNAL " ; i n any; w a y s..
    (that is; it never; should-GO; OUT; to WALK around;
    or act on; people-&Things,
    a s; religious; DO ..
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    ..to continuee..(part 2)

    S O; IT; has to b e; k e p t ;
    (First) ; i n " SEX-channel-or-Sylinder-whereever se x; reaches;in the Body.. "
    ; (A siege; to OUR-SUBconscious.. )
    ..and also has to b e; k e p t; " regresed ; "into- insticts-only " ..
    (second) has to b e; UNDER; CONTROL;
    b y the BRAiN-BOX; ;(that is Psychology)
    .. o r; " PSY C h i ATRy-system " ..
    so occures; a secular; and " a TRUE-iNDiViDUAL "; that can not b e; even;
    " s e l f ish "; as i s; the "gravitiy "; o f the; " Capital i s m " .happens.
    (the values; o f "religion " shall say us;
    who is keeping faith; i n; & who; i s
    TAKing; i t; O U T ..


    S O; that; " P a i n t i n g "; o f; CASPAR DAViD's
    http://www.backtoclassics.com/gallery/caspardavidfriedrich/chalkcliffsonrugen/
    i s very essential; a painting; I think..
    a n d; i f I w a s; to B E; ;" ARTist-secular " in my L i f e;
    ; I w a s; to BE; i n
    that; p a i n t i n g (AND-PAiNT); (soIMADEaREPRODUCTiONof; this-WORK )

    ..( o r it has to b e; i n M E; (READy; and ALREADy)
    in my BRAin; (asAreligion-THiNG-in-ME)
    (if A religion-THiNG; is a PAiNTiNG; i n me, t h e n;
    I will; PRAY; t o ; that; " the ART-THiNG " ;
    " instead o f GOD " ,
    (to produce many-art-THiNGs) ..

    ..o r ; i f; there; i s a " THiNG "(aPainting) i n my; Brain;
    t h e n; I w a s; t o ; " establish a GOD " in m e;
    ; that i s; NOT;" A THiNG " ; t h e n..

    (that is,the pure belief in spiritual-base,eXisted..i n )

    .. t h a t ; is; sheer;andPURE-G o D; belief i n M E, t h e n;
    i t never; Will-m a k e; any " intervention " ; t o ;
    ANY-T H i n g;..(and any-HUMAN-t h e n..)
    ( i f it; i s; s u b l i m e-spirith-eXistance..so.)

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    THE-MAN; there; has to HAVE; all his; " religion-and Faith;-and believe "
    i N S İ D E; h i m..
    to; STAND; in the MiDDLE; o f all these, " eXPAND " ; o f that; UNiVERSE;
    a r o u n d; H i m ..(romantisizm can be determined, s o ..)

    ..by the; w a y; ; E d e n; I thank;U; because;
    as a conquerer o f the " EXTERNAL-OUTSiDE-LANDs " ; U pushed; M E;
    towards;2 t h a t ; PAiNTing; that I have; " installed "; i n M E ..(when a Child)
    (Chalk CLiffs at Rügen)
    and forgot; (i t WAS; still i n ME-strongly..)..
    .. (and may-be; that i S; ; why; I am; h e r e..)

    ( although; I am a TRUE;A ABSTRACTER; n o W A d a y s. )


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caspar_David_Friedrich_028.jpg
    T h a t; Painting; has to b e; saying;
    " A B S T R A C t i o n s "; has to b e; D O N E; i n ; 2-WAYs ..
    L i k e; A Tree; ; Roots-&and Branches..
    (or man-and woman ) (mirror-image is important-so)
    ( b u t; roots; a r e to b e; " i n the; A i R " ; too..
    to see what they-have DONE; i n that " inthrough to the;GROUND"; domain..
    (may be seX; i s ,from ground to SKY-action; a s we became;HUMAN ..)
    and that can not b e; ignored; ; in the; " TOTAL-Field o f art; Diameter " establishment.. )

    I remember; U'r Tree-Paintings; now; ,EDEN.

    a last Thing..I undersatnd; Christine's offer; as;
    " c a n; it b e , " Just WHAT; i s H U M A N ";
    ..instead; O F; " t h e HUMANity " ..(the whole-Cocept)
    .. b e c a u s e; art can; investigate; t h a t; LONELy-Thing;
    h i d i n g; i n our; SOUL s; and can BE; NAMED; a s
    " t h e BEing " ; or ExiSTANCE; " entitiy " ; "

    " HUMAN b eİNG " .. or " H U M A N " ..
    ..and art can MAKE; it; V i s a b l e; to every one of; U S ..

    ..a bit; Long..because;I have a " snuffle "; and;I can not ;go to basketball..)










Irena, D-



..I can put emphessis on; the difference between; t h e  ;"   M A K E ; and;  " D O  "..I guess.

..as a muslim country member;(I am) I can say; WE l e a r n e d; that; " ALLAH " ; " MAKEs " ; every thing.. ( and OWNER; o f all; MADEs..andALL-Matter..)
..and with all that; " mathematical " ability of ALLAH's; all M A D E; things; a r e ; Perfectly;-M A D E .( and what ever, will b e ; M A D E; in the WorlD;-also- ,Will have that; TRADE; MARK; o f " ALLAH' s " ,eventually; -that is a Muslim defination-  ..

..S O; " MAKE "; someT H i N G..(saysAllah..) and; if Allah i s WiTH; U; (or has beenWiTH);  t   h   e   n  ;   i t has to have ;  a  l  l;
t h a t, " professional;and perfact mathematics;o f the " MAKE ";  
and; W i l l; BE; " H i g h Ly-PROFESSionAL-MADEs "..
( ..and that is ; the Quality-Standart o f;  ; the contemporary arts-Today; & Capitalism;  TOO.

.." where  t o  ",  ; I  come.
Christianity; i s ; based; on ; " c r e a t i O N " ; basiCallY.
(Although; ALLAH; i s; the; B a s i C;  " M A K E R " &OWNEr-of-all-MADE s. &WiLL b e; the owner; all; that; shall b e m a d e ;   , i n the future.   )
(and creation is not a MAKE)

S  O; " HUMAN " ; i s; a Thing;   "  in  l i v e-creation "; s t a t e ; still..
( creating;creation- occuring; and c a n; create; and intervention to creation; -and creatures- i s Legal.. though..) (in Muslim, tardition; creating i s ;forbidden )

T h e y say; Muslim is; the religion that has; that; " p e a c e " ; domain; because
it focus es; on the;" MAKE  "; i s s u e ;  ,o n l y..
(and muslim are not curious about; " creation-process e s " ..)
..

..these all ; carry US; ; there a  r  e;   a  "  L a c k "; in both; these religions..
S O; Christians; a r e ; to b e; ," Capitalist "; to  ; M A K E ..
(of course; Western-Coulture; h a s basic-MAKEs; 
b  u  t; Muslims say; that; not every-MAKE; i s,  good..
(especially i f man; MAKEs; i t; and it happens; though..
Muslims offer; a " BOSS " ; to ; t h e ; " M A K E s "..
..and that BOss; (ALLAH) ; shall; investigate; 
which; "  MAKE  " ; ,i s  REAL..


..where; I look;(my slant) ; Capitalism(Holdings) ; are to MAKE; and; " the boss e s "; there;
i s; m o r e ; aLike; the ONLy-BOSS; " t h e Allah "..(in their; HOLDings)

( that;  i  s; there are to U.S.A. 1- Government; i s Christian;(comander of the society) 2- Capitalsim..(Holdings-USA) ( DO; U think that; capitalists-belive in the Christ..they may say; t h e y ; DO..
"  they are Christian s " ; ; b u t ; " CAPiTAL i s m  " ; i s based; ON; the TOTAL-CapiTALer-(the ALLAH); i d e o l o g y..
(look at world-now..people suffer from CAPiTALism; i n every country)
( and they shall ;b l a m e;" Muslims-ALLAH ";
w a s the o W N E R;  o f ; that;  " UNdeterminism " .

Christians; add that " capitalism  " ; to themselves; 
and t h e y ; b e c o m e; " complate " ;  T  H   E   N ..
..(at least; Christianity;and Muslim-religion; are
the Last TWO; o n e; and;
t  h  e  y; are; the LAST-couples; i n fact ..)


Christians;  they ;NEED not; h a v e  to;   belive i n, " CAPiTAL i s m " ..(because i t ; i s the REALity ;only)
( and ı think; the birth; o f; the " IDEA  "  ; o f  that; " capitalism " ; belongs to these; "  MEKKA-Arabs  " ..
(where prophet;" Mohammed " ; has came; f r o m ..MEKKA..)
(and KABBA-of MEKKA; is the ONE-&only; CAPiTAL-center; of thet " Arab-Authentic-Mystic-Capitalsim " ..still..)

..SO; differance between; Western Capitalism; and " ARAB; capitalism ";  i  s;
..first one i s ; MODERN(&Western);  and the second; o n e;  i   s;  " A u t hen t i c "  traditional; Capitalism..

S O; this; " t a l e " , conflict-between; ; Christians and Muslims; i s
-in fact- ; between, " Authentic " ; and Modern; Capitalism..
( when modern capitalism fails; it makes a challange; to the Authentic-sources..of the Arab.-LAND.. ) (WE (Turks) ; are not; ARABs.. -came from Middle-Asia-..)

S O; , " Contemporary-art; i s; to " support "; the " STAND "; o f; capitalism,TOO;  though..
(ALLAH; is the MAKEr; with; maths; and; SO; DOES_the contemporary-art..
( SO; N  O, one; in need of a belief; i n ;every-THiNg..can believe in contemporary-art) )

..and U can not belive in maths..-and there is NO-creation; i n MATHematics-..
(   " Maths. i s the, total formulations;  o  f ;  t  h  e, M A K E s, " ; in fact
so , to MAKE-maths-Concrate; and  i  n;  " THiNGs "; 
t h e y; install;  m a t h s; into, THiNGs; -so they are;contemporary-THiNGs-

..there has to b e; MADE; contemporary-art; i n WESTERN; LAND..(of Capitalism's)

.."  mediocre  " , i s; aName; for ," avarage-M A K E s " ..
(not professionally-enough)
( w e Muslims; DO not MAKE; these avarage-things; normally..)
(because; ALLAH; must have MADE; better-ones; w e believe to wait; for it..)

.."  anti-art  " ; i s; , anti-humanitic;   "  anti-creative  " ; and  "  anti-Christian  "; t o o.
..(that means; capitalist-side; will act; o n ; Christians; too
b y using; that; " anti-art-contemporarian " ;..
t h a t ,  i  s,  one day; CAPİTAL' i s t s; M i G H T;  , " H a v e  to " ; CLEAN;
all beliefs; (even Christianity) ..
..to k e e p-CLEAN;    " t h e i R -  M  A   D   E-THiNGs   "..

.. b e c a u s e; they; shall say; " creatives " ; and " creting " ;(of the artist)  i s
" ONLy-A " ; " p u ke " ; into society..-to CAPiTAList-MADE-PUBLiC-
...a n d; creation; h a s to roll, i n the; "track "; o f  "  HUMAN;-GENEs   "; (in Biology) ,ONLy..

.."    only; art   " ;   ;that can  "  WEAR; computer-MADE;FORM- Dresses  "
; can; b e
 p r e s e n t e d;  i n the ,  " perfectly-M A D E-THiNGs-ofTHE-CAPiTALism-LAND s " ..
..

i f " Human; a  r  t  "; , (DONE-by-HUMAN) ;
t  h  e  n ;  ; i  t  , has only; ONE; chance..
..and that ; i s; ; if they can; be;  , in 2-dimensional-PiCTURing-Space s.
..and i f  they Can; b e, installed i n t o; architectural-WALLs..
(on the WALL-sur f a c e   s(on the sur FACE; o f the-architecture) ; o n L y.

..there is o n l y; HOPE; ; to s e e; the reflection; o f  " HUMAN-aesthetics " 
a s ; in a " F A C E " ; F  o  r  m; o n the ; Mirroring-WALLs;
o f  the "  WALL-EXistance  " ..

..conclussion : religious-Christianism-i n ART; has been DONE; in former-centuries..
and; Christians ; o f today; can not be; allowed; to DO; i t, NOWadays.
(and contemporary art; is a " sterile "; Medium; to; " s e p a r a t e  "  ..
e v e n; " christians " ; from; their-n a t u r e.(to b e; expressed;puked-out)

.. b u t; they can work; i n; the " ancient-History-territories- "; o f course..
( they might; b e ; Thinking; SO; I guess..)








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Irena,



..I think; U missed the " point "; " where  ", ıhave written; (above)..


..my saying is; Christians; add; " Muslim ism "; to their society; by inventing CAPiTALism.

..and contemporary-art; ; i s an other; branch of that; " Capital' i sm " ..

..( if U can read it once more ); , there; i s not; any  " compare i n g "; between; 
Muslims and Christians..
..and also; there; i s NO-c l i c h e; ,in my writing..( I did not mention; any o f prejudice; produced; o n that; i s s u e)

I only; g i v e,   a NEW; approach; t o; the " WESTERN-CAPiTALism " ; &EASTERN-W A Y of capitalism; that i s; MEKKA-Authentic-Capitalism..paralellity.
...and CONTEMPORARy-art; i s a branch; to help; Western-capitalism;
( not to put blame on Muslim-Capitalism..if things GO; WRONG..
 -they use art to complate western-capitalism-
(SO; U say; art; i s not; Humanistic-any-MORE..
because it is beeing Used; i n; Politics.)

..b u t ; politicians, are not artists; and t h e y ; 
put that; blame straight; to the authentic-Muslim-Capitalist-life-style ..
 ..because they are; " b u l k y " ; western-capitalism; fails..

..Y  e  s; t h e y are; BULKy;(asUsaid; too) ..
..but remember; ; Modern-Capitalism; & EASTERN-Authentic;-Capitalism; i s
" s l i g h t  l y " ; different; and; can not ;  B E;  a d  d e  d ..(in fact)
I prefer; Westrn; governments; DO; not TALK; o n;
" Muslim-societies.." ..
.. t o; add t h e m, t o,  " Western-Societies " ..
i  t   D O E S n't; f i t; ; to western-tradition; (and also Christianism), though..
..b  u  t ; Governments, a r e; " operators;"  o f;  " t  h e  CAPiTAL i s t s "; THOUGH..

I think; "  U do not have much ;time  " ; to read; " long-posts " .. 











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Titus, has a POiNT..
( When saying, professional; E d u c atiON )
( I L i k e; " communism 2 MY-self " ..S O; I am; n o t ; enLarGed; t o,
a " m e d i o c r e " )  ..

...and communists h a s ; " THAT-DOOR " ; (very specific-deciplines; to keep borders of the personality; strong and safe; -i n a ,b o x-.. )

" CAPiTALism's-DOOR "; i s very Liberal;s o deciplines;o f Mind,&BODy a r e; Liberated, too..
.. b   u  t; a r t; need these;  eXcess-d e c i p l i n e s; o f t  h  e ;  , " human "; 
b e c a u s e; ,we shall need these " decipline-borders " to d e f i n e; n e w 
THiNGs; -shall b e; created; o r occur-    ; i  n a  r t.

S  O;  W  E;  H A V E ;  T  h i s;  "  M   A   K   E "  ; 
o f;  " C a p i t a l ism's " ..
..as  " the DOOR  " ; ,   (e  v e n; to that; Capitalism; i n art;) 
I  T;  , i    s;;  " t h e ____   M  A  K  E   " ..___-___

U can b e;    ; " totally; L i b e r a l "  ; (in U'r ratio ); and with Ur BODy..
T  h  e  n ; i t ; Wi L L ;  B E;  a s k e d;   (2U)
...c  a  n;   U  ;   " M A K E " ;  i   t..
(so  System; , c a n; give a BORDER; t o U)

..i  f U can MAKE; i t; in the e n d, THEN; NO problem i n; U'r being-VERY-LiBERAL..
(S O; that i s ,the reason, L i b e r t y; c a n;  TAKE; place..i n MANKind..
"  L e t them;Liberal  " ; because they W i L L;  MAKE;  , at the; E N D ..)

SO; PROFESSiONAL; artist, c a n ;  " MAKE "..
..and in artSchool-eXams;(Titus mentioned)
t h e y; choose; w h o can MAKE; a t that; a g e..
( if some one can MAKE; 
h e/she, has thatRATiO; inTheHEAD; and shall MAKE;
i n any a g e, &in any situation..

.. b  u t ; there i s a  " n u a n c e " ;  h e r e..
I may b e; out o f; artSchool; (because I did not want to b e; there)
..and my ratio; i s " perfect " ; 
,, t  h e  n ; 
I  M A D E;  " many  " M A K E s " ; i n all my;  l i f e..(individually)
..( there are many THiNGs; to b e MADE; ( i n L i f e )
.. OTHER-than;   "   a  r  t; school-M a k e s  "  ..
(they show U how to MAKE; a THiNg; ,-Uhave accompany-
b  u   t ; I might; L O V E; to l e a r n; to MAKE; T h i n g s
MY-self; i n many;  MEDiUMs..(and Things)
..  t  h  e  n; am I not; a MAKER; (&profeccional) ..

...o    f     C  o  u  r  s   e; RATiO; i s not;  enough..
" M A K i N G ";  A B i L i t y , h a s; to  b  e  ; practiced..truely and Totally..)

(if RATiOnalism;;  WAS; e n o u g h,     ,  all capital-patrons; (BOSS e s) ;; should; MAKE;
p e r f e c t; arts..( but they have to Learn; 
HOW; t o MAKE; from the artists..though.)
....(i n fact; capiatalism; MAKE-things; in HOLDings;(not;" PatronsMAKE "..they coordinate the MAKEing process, , o n l y)

A N D;  S  O;  A R T i s t ;      ,h a s to M A K E; 
and then; people has to L e a r n;
HOW t o; " M A K E "; f r o m;
 t h e   M A K E R-of the- a  r t..
( that is a half,  , we get from; a r t -work)

conclussion..
W H O is artist..
 W H O can;  M A K E;   " where " ; O t h e r s; can not; 
M   A   K    E ..( t h e same)

..i  t   is very ; s i m p l e..
..but; in which; deciplines;
 "  M A K E  " ; shall T A K E-Place..

..t h e y all shall say; ; MAKE; has to b e; MADE;
 "   in these; BORDERS  "  ..(religions,nationalities,cultural-genetics, e c t .)

(  N O;to capitalist-ART-Makers..-Liberated themselves;p r i m e r i l Y.-
  ; (art-people)ARTisT;   has to b e;a " COMUNist "; inside.
( w h e r e-orWHO;  everUare..U have to b e; international; and-universal)

(communist; deciplines; a r e more difficult; deciplines;
 m o r e ;hard;  than religion-demands; 
because religion-deciplines; i s made to MAKE;L i f e-eaisy-in- societies; , o n l y,,
b u t ; artist has to have more " strict "; human-body-BORDERs " ..
( m y psychiatrist;was telling; m e; always; b e carefull WiTH-the-BORDERs
all psychiatry can b e; defined; to a WORD.. " BORDER " ..)

.( Chiristian-deciplines
a  r  e not enough; t  o;   "  the Perfect- MAKE-s  " ..
because; i n MEGA;  "  m a k e s  " ; there occures; , BiG-PRESSUREs; o n 
H u m a n; BODy-Borders..(and in Psychologic-border-Lines..) 
..and communism was to strenghten; ; these; BORDERs, before;
 they would; ; b e TORN-apart..
comunism i s; a practice to ; memorise; Ur OWN; B o d y-Borders..(many-times)
 a    n  d ;(ofcourse)  i    t ;    i    s;  not; f o r;  every-o n e..
w  h  o ; only; seeks; t o; ; b e " social " , o n l y ..

..and if U will l i k e; to L i v e ; l i k e; a worker; ,(and a worker-in-art-too)
U can Liberate; Ur soul; i n SPORTs; (sports have strong deciplines; too; and Liberation to the; H U M A N; B O D y; and M i n d..as it happens; , i n our bodies)
 )



w h e r e ; DO; U w a n t
; t o L i v e  as an artist..

...for an artist; L i b e r a t i o n; o f; the; M i n d; (Like in capitalist-countries)
, i s not essential; I think..( because; Artist c  a n; MAKE; every thing; i n his art; and i m a g i n a t i o n.. and in his RATiO-use, i n art..)
(; Ur Mind has to b e; Liberal; in Western-Countries; ,so U can MAKE; what capitalism; n e e d;  "  that has to b e  " ;  D O N E; and ; MADE..by U.

.." things " -and country; and anyTHiNG-   ;
...(can)  DO; not change eaisly i n; Communist-countries;
 because;
every-one can not; M  A  K  E;  e v e r y-thing..

..i f every-one can MAKE; any-THiNG; i  n P U B L i C;  A R E A; too,
t  h e   n; these MAKEs; will ; a f f e c t; every-Mind and; g i v e ; Velocity
to e v e r y;  M i n d ..( I vouldnt want; m y; m i n d;
.. should; begin to be moved; by; other-Making-Minds...) 

A R T i s t; too , h a s ;  A  M i n d,  b u t;
I wouldn't WANT; MY-Mind; B E-Changed; b y; OTHER;
M A K E R 's;M i n d s.. (and with their; m i n d&RATiOnalisms;  ;a c t  i ON  s .. )
Capitalism; h a s to;  PUT;  T H A T; "  MAKE-Liberty-of-the-Minds " ;
i  n  t h e;  MiDDLE; o f  a Society; o r; in PUBLic.

.. s o m e , here; o n that tread,

..Why do you not love;  "   SOME; MAKEs   " ; o f;
contemporary;  a r  t   s..
(because they; try to MAKE; Ur; M i n d s.. )
( o r MAKE; some installations; into U'r minds)
( any w a y;even; t h e y are better; than; t h e; H i d d e n-RATiO-M A K E s;
o f  the;  " F l i c k e r ing-CAPiTALism-OPERATOR-ADVERTisers "....( and Media)  ..


I write; LONg, because; I have to answer; the questions; in my; M i n d, too
o n t h e; (that) T O P i c..
..( that means I write; an answer to; m e, too, though.)

..so Ican stayİTheTRACK.. (me,too)








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WHEN; Talking on NOVELs.. 
(i t is a  " Big-MAKE;F O R M  "; , as a  Writing can     ;  MAKE; -aThing-.)



..then I shall ask; how do, we;
 "  MAKE-aWriting  " 
..i  n 2 HOURS..  ?

i  s it possible; to  " MAKE a NOVEL; (aMAKE) in 2 hours.
(can U MAKE; a Writing; ,, that shall happen; i n 2 hours..)
(that; i s; can U MAKE; a very short; Novel; in 2 hours..)
(then write i t; and give it; to M E; I shall a s k...)
( i  f  U  a r e ; a  "  TRUE;a  M A K E    e  r  " ..
..i n WRiTing; too..)
( any-ONE-MAKEr; c a n; write; in that
"  ONE-PAGE; 4 Writings-FORMAT " t o o.. )
( o f course; U shall DO;(mAKE) i t; i n U'r Language..)

i  f  someONE; c a n; MAKE; ; a NOVEL; i n; 2 hours;
then I shall; a s k; ; 
give ME; a NOVEL;
 that has been MADE; from;
 " 2 hourMAKEs " .. ( a NOVEL;o  f  a  Year; forExample; 300-pages,
;  .. individually-Novel ,every Page  ..)

https://www.facebook.com/moddanis/media_set?set=a.10202166245330758.1073741838.1027582449&type=3

.. " a big MAKE "; M a d e ; o f; " MANY-unic ";  M A K E s..
...THATshouldBE;  " THE- D i G i T A L; iza t i ON "; of the;
" N O V E L " ;  F  O  R  M ..
..(....and that is better; than; a "  MADE-contemporary-aNovel " ;I Think.)






p.s.
..TO M A K E; WRiTing; U N i C..  :

.....  from  "  writing-t h e-ALPHABETH ";    ;(making Latters)
 2  A    ;  
 " M A K E of,   " a WRiTing  " .. " FORM.. "   ; ..  


i  f  U are  to;  MAKE;  A l p h a B e t h; L E T T E R s; ,  -on a PAPER-; 
,, t h e n; U SHOULD; h a v e to; ,
,,M A K E   ; A;   "   writing;  FORMat ";  , t o o;(as Alphabeth is a writing-format;too)
 2  M A K E;    "  A  WRiTiNG-UNiC  " ..
(TWiCE-MAKEings-Writing-Format; will make writing; "  UNiCLy-MADE-writing  " ..)

... T H E N; there is a "  Totally- A ; M A K E-WALL "; 
i n front; o f  U; (on the paper Uare writing) ..
 (as a written Alphabeth and a "   MAKE; o f a WRiTing-WALL on the paper..  " )


t  h e n ; when; come to; " a r t "; i n that;  
"   u N i C-M  A  K  E " ; of writing,  :

, t h a t ;  is , U' r F E E L i n g s;
H   A  S    T   O; b e   i n s t a l l e d; ;  i  N; (or Leak in) 
 "   t h a t  "  WRiTing-WALL  " ; -aMADE-; "
.....s o m e HOW..
( Iam interested; in Writing-MAKE; 
a  r  t -creation-can find it's WAY; i n t o , that make.. 
and that ; will b e , " GENUine-art-T h i n g " ;though,t h e n..
...a r t; can not b e; taught.. )

(that means; i f  WALL o f;the-MAKE; i s UNiC and
TOTAL; then, U'r FEELings and " creation-living " ;  in U'r feelings;
 has to; 
b  e ;(found) ; " UNiC " ; and-genuine;
 i n that; 
"  UNiC-WALL-of theM A D E " .. )


..i f there i s,  a "  MADE-DOOR  ";   ; (of MAKEs) ; 
 (aTotal-MADE-ALPHAbeth-WALL); 
 t h e n;
U c a n; identify; o r  " s e e "; who has COME-in-THROUGH; t h a t; ; DOOR..
.. a s a       " created;   ; o r a  a c r e a t i o n ) ; 
; ...(two phases; has to b e; saparated;too; and total-wall will-MAKE; that; slowing..
for U'r creation )
..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yobA-zDpa8







Murat Oktay Danış
.. b e e eeeeeee en " O 'D A " şirketinde MODDANiS
Irena, I have noting to DO; with " social; systems " ,and , i n the Public..
( put; m e, in ,any social; system; and I can study, i n ; i t..)
I am Talking; o f, ; SYSTEMs;(inner); " i n a PERSON " ; (artist) (additional deciplines<, to art deciplines..i f they can help; art-deciplines.. ..
( because; more deciplines; shall g i v e artist; more area to; a c t in; and catch more; unidentified; THiNGs)

M a y be, I must not; USE; these; words..(Muslim i s m; o r Communism )..because; U Understand, that, , " I am celabrating these social-systems; and, Ideologies "..
I s e e ..it happens; S O..
....Social-Living conditions are; n o t; difficulties, for , ARTists; I think..
..even some can say; I am a A-social..( I do not Like; being social..)

A r t i s t; Lives; i n his/her WORLD; and ; Creates; His/her; " Country "; i n his/her art..
( Brain and heart..)

..then again; p u t; m e; i n any-enviroment; I will; survive.. (didn't I; in Turkey..it was not easy; but art; w a s more; difficult; all-t i me..)



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